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2018-2019 Ohio State Men's Basketball (Official Thread)

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nomatta said:
Thing is, on paper in terms of HS recruiting rankings, our team is not much more talented (if at all--at least Illinois has a 5-star in Dosunmu). Just our team is a little more balanced, maybe, and seems to have a little more composure in terms of winning games? Perhaps that reflects on the coach, though I think Underwood can succeed at Illinois if he gets the kind of guys he needs to run his stuff well, or if he can bend his system a bit to the guys he does have.
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Usually your basketball posts are pretty good but this one has me baffled. High school rankings do not mean squat if the team is running up and down the court like chickens with their heads cut off. Underwood sort of reminds me of Cream and that is not a good thing IMO. There is no question about it this all boils down to coaching the players that you have and Holtmann definitely knows out to coach better than Underwood. Also, by the time Underwood gets his type of players Holtmann will have his 3 guys coming in next season so maybe Underwood better get his act together.
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Jardy pointed out the reality that this OSU team has no stars right now. "The Buckeyes do not have a player in the top 23 in the Big Ten in scoring, in the top 13 in rebounding, the top 15 in field goal or three-point percentage or assists or the top 13 in assist-to-turnover ratio."
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Maybe Jardy need some lessons on basketball. You do not have to have "stars" to win games. The better team with the better coach usually wins basketball games and right now Ohio State beats Illinois in both departments and it is not going to get any worse at Ohio State.
 
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I dunno if my post was coming off negative about OSU vs. Illinois or something but that certainly wasn't the intention. My point was simply that right now Holtmann is doing more than Underwood is doing with rosters that have fairly similar talent and experience levels. Last season when we were finishing 2nd for the B1G and Illinois was scrapping around at the bottom and Holtmann and Underwood were both first year coaches, the Illinois fan excuse was "Well, Holtmann inherited Keita Bates-Diop!" Now there aren't really the same sort of excuses for them to make. Holtmann seems to be doing a better job of putting his team in a position to win games (of course, it doesn't help Illinois that their early schedule has been really brutal).

As far as Jardy's notes, I don't think it was intended as any sort of negative, either. I think his point was that it is kind of impressive that the team has been able to work well enough as a TEAM to be 8-1 and 2-0 in B1G play despite having no individual stat-stuffers.
 
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I might be alone here but I love these gritty, nothing working well games where the boys just find a way to win. Usually that gets done on the defensive end and we have some good defensive players on this team - one excellent defensive player.

The BiG schedule is going to test their mettle and by conference tournament time, they will all be seasoned and hopefully well oiled playing great team basketball.
I already believe in Coach Holt like he's been here for 10 years. The boys are playing hard.
 
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DZ83CK said:
OSU points last 2 games:

Kaleb 28
Musa 22
Andre 20
CJJ 19
Duane 19
Keyshawn 18
Kyle 16
LeDee 6
Luther 6 (1 gm)

Pretty remarkable balance of production.
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If all of those guys are plus defenders at their positions, you can't beat that. I'm seriously thinking if they continue, Sweet 16 isnt out of the realm of possibility. Granted they have to shoot well and stop the turnovers but there's no one to key on for the opponents. Thats a lot of stress for the other teams.
 
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Watching UCLA the full game vs ND, I would be disappointed if OSU were to lose to those guys when they play later this month. I feel there is a good chance OSU plays better as a team and at a greater intensity level, so although UCLA might have more raw talent, that is a game OSU ought to win in my mind. Looking ahead, there is a golden opportunity for OSU to finish the nonconference at 10-1 and enter the new year at 12-1.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Watching UCLA the full game vs ND, I would be disappointed if OSU were to lose to those guys when they play later this month. I feel there is a good chance OSU plays better as a team and at a greater intensity level, so although UCLA might have more raw talent, that is a game OSU ought to win in my mind. Looking ahead, there is a golden opportunity for OSU to finish the nonconference at 10-1 and enter the new year at 12-1.
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That would be clutch, because the conference is going to be hectic
 
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