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Hstead
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Exaggerate much? Geez. "red-hot-hate" and "rage-typing". That is just stupid. You can try to make it personal but I never mentioned anything about "hating" or even not liking JT. In fact, if you actually read what I posted, which was "JT is by all accounts a great guy" instead of just making shit up, but of course that is your MO. You can't seem to have a discussion regarding the state of the program without getting your feelings hurt?
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So clearly the answer is no. Enjoy your big wins over your infinite collection of strawmen. I'm done polluting the board with foolish attempts to avoid them.
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When you resort to hyperbole about how the third stringer is guaranteed to be equal/better than JT, claim JT is incapable of completing a pass downfield or can only embarrass OSU against good teams, it sure comes across that way.
So after not reading most of what I've said over the past year yet throwing around wild accusations nonetheless, you want credit for, what exactly?
Hyping up the NFL talent of Corey Smith despite admitting that he wasn't actually expected to be drafted? Ok. What did I say?
Seems pretty accurate to me.
I didn't say you hated JT. I said you aggressively hated his play.
I didn't say Noah Brown wouldn't make it. I frankly didn't say much about Noah.
I didn't say you said Corey Smith would be drafted. I said you overhyped him.
I didn't say the 2015 WRs stunk. That was from our last go around on Zone 6.
I did say that the WR talent was stellar before this downturn and that the youngsters look promising. I specifically singled out Victor and Mack in a bunch of posts, with others for Grimes and Hill, yet you throw them in my face in an absurd gotcha attempt as though I'm dogging them.
Please read what I type, read it again, and then address what I say instead of what a caricature of me might say (OMG I can't believe Brown's going pro, he sux! These WRs are turribl).. You might notice that I'm actually pretty critical of Barrett and optimistic about the long future of the WR corps. You might hear me compare it to the end of the Tressel run right before they reloaded in a big way (including with less heralded kids like Spencer, Brown, Brown and others).
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Cris is a solid rebuttal (I was 4) and naturally dances circles around Devin overall.
I'd put Devin above the other two strictly as a deep ball threat.
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Hstead
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For the millionth time, you want to claim I , these are your words (bold above), "Hyped up the NFL talent of Corey Smith" when I very specifically said more than once that he would be a FA and NOT GET DRAFTED! Not a single post EVER did I say he would be drafted, not once, yet you want to infer because I listed a draft ranking where he was in the top 40 that somehow that means I think he has NFL talent. When in fact I posted the polar opposite, that we had 2 NFL draftable players, and 2 that would NOT GET DRAFTED!
Geez. Seriously. WTF do you not understand about that? Where the fuck am I "hyping Corey Smith NFL talent?" You seriously are misreading the what I posted. It is all there to go read. So yes "words are important" like the words I used to describe how he would be a FA and not be drafted. WOW.
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The downturn I'm talking about coincided with this:
#5 ATH Gibson '15
#8 ATH Samuel '14
#11 ATH Brown '15
#12 WR Campbell '14
#21 WR Stump '15
#25 WR Dixon '14
#28 WR Hill '15
#37 WR McLaurin '14
The lone high recruit left over is Campbell, and his stellar athleticism is handcuffed by inconsistent hands. Outside WR and DT recruiting were the two areas that OSU didn't recruit at a high level until very recently. Those were two big weaknesses vs OU.
Compare that with what arrived after:
#9 WR Grimes (was a 5-star before camp politics and an injury hurt his stock)
#9 WR Mack
#13 WR Victor
#20 WR Harris
(#159 WR Gardiner)
And to be clear, I like Hill and think he'll do a good job with a better passing game. I like what Dixon could have been with better health. But the recruiting has been turned up multiple notches in the past two years, just like at DT, and I expect the NFL interest to be similar.
#8 ATH Samuel '14
#11 ATH Brown '15
#12 WR Campbell '14
#25 WR Dixon '14
#28 WR Hill '15
#37 WR McLaurin '14
The lone high recruit left over is Campbell, and his stellar athleticism is handcuffed by inconsistent hands. Outside WR and DT recruiting were the two areas that OSU didn't recruit at a high level until very recently. Those were two big weaknesses vs OU.
Compare that with what arrived after:
#9 WR Grimes (was a 5-star before camp politics and an injury hurt his stock)
#9 WR Mack
#13 WR Victor
#20 WR Harris
(#159 WR Gardiner)
And to be clear, I like Hill and think he'll do a good job with a better passing game. I like what Dixon could have been with better health. But the recruiting has been turned up multiple notches in the past two years, just like at DT, and I expect the NFL interest to be similar.
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I don't understand most of it. Why were you thumping Zone6's chest over the bolded sections?
I'm aware that you were undercutting your own argument from the start. I still don't understand why you made it.
Look at the 4 NFL commodities!! 2 of them aren't desired at all, but them being on the list of non-draftees has to count for something?
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Hstead
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I was addressing a comment that Zone 6 was "weak". I then laid out the argument that they were not "weak" because 2 were going to get drafted, and the other two were ranked in the top 70. There are many schools out there that do not have 1 receiver in the top 70 and we had 4. That didn't mean I thought the two ranked at 40 and 70 were getting drafted, hence I said they would be FA's and Samuel and Brown would be drafted. I was talking about Zone 6 as a whole. They were not "weak". When your worst is ranked 70th, that isn't too bad. Not to mention that doesn't account for Campbell or the other underclassmen that made up Zone 6 last year. No where did I tout "4 NFL Commodities", those again are your words and not mine and your interpretation because I listed the other two's rankings. And I wouldn't call them "not desired at all" they were FAs which a lot of other schools and receivers cannot say they were.
I still don't understand what is so hard to follow? I listed to the two guys that would get drafted and listed the other 2 guys that would not get drafted and showed their rankings were 40 and 70. No where did I tout they are "NFL" players or would be. I did however point out that the unit was not "weak" in my estimation.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
That was exactly what I was trying to get at. Thank you for doing it better than I.
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OHSportsFan
Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy
All this talk about NFL talent at WR is missing the point that I sit around on any Saturday and watch every other team across America DESIGN plays that have dudes running wide open. I mean, I trust JT enough to through some easy pitch and catch. Just a total breakdown in design and what JT is asked or has now been coached beyond repair to do.
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