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Game Thread 2017 Cotton Bowl: OSU vs. USC - 12/29/17 @ 8:30 ET (ESPN)

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My definition re: mediocre ~ when you go from '68 to '02 without a NC and along the way continually lose big game after game, many of which the Buckeyes were a favorite to heavy favorite you're mediocre. Losing (7) straight to Southern Cal qualifies also. One of which was at home to a freshman qb playing his second game!

btw, beating TTUN on a regular basis should be the norm. Which makes the '70s/'80s/'90s highly disappointing and totally frustrating! Repeating, admin/athletic directors along the way who were satisfied with said mediocrity was also disheartening.

Yes, my standards are higher than most and no, I do not grade on a curve! Bottom line, one legitimate NC in (45) years is/was not acceptable.

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Also losing to Iowa 55-24 makes you very mediocre to say the least.
 
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shiloh said:
My definition re: mediocre ~ when you go from '68 to '02 without a NC and along the way continually lose big game after game, many of which the Buckeyes were a favorite to heavy favorite you're mediocre. Losing (7) straight to Southern Cal qualifies also. One of which was at home to a freshman qb playing his second game!

btw, beating TTUN on a regular basis should be the norm. Which makes the '70s/'80s/'90s highly disappointing and totally frustrating! Repeating, admin/athletic directors along the way who were satisfied with said mediocrity was also disheartening.

Yes, my standards are higher than most and no, I do not grade on a curve! Bottom line, one legitimate NC in (45) years is/was not acceptable.

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Also losing to Iowa 55-24 makes you very mediocre to say the least.
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Sounds like you need to put in for the HC Position STAT!
 
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shiloh said:
My definition re: mediocre ~ when you go from '68 to '02 without a NC and along the way continually lose big game after game, many of which the Buckeyes were a favorite to heavy favorite you're mediocre. Losing (7) straight to Southern Cal qualifies also. One of which was at home to a freshman qb playing his second game!

btw, beating TTUN on a regular basis should be the norm. Which makes the '70s/'80s/'90s highly disappointing and totally frustrating! Repeating, admin/athletic directors along the way who were satisfied with said mediocrity was also disheartening.

Yes, my standards are higher than most and no, I do not grade on a curve! Bottom line, one legitimate NC in (45) years is/was not acceptable.

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Also losing to Iowa 55-24 makes you very mediocre to say the least.
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Your "definition" of mediocre is seriously flawed, to say the least...that's why it's your definition of the word.
 
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shiloh said:
My definition re: mediocre ~ when you go from '68 to '02 without a NC and along the way continually lose big game after game, many of which the Buckeyes were a favorite to heavy favorite you're mediocre. Losing (7) straight to Southern Cal qualifies also. One of which was at home to a freshman qb playing his second game!

btw, beating TTUN on a regular basis should be the norm. Which makes the '70s/'80s/'90s highly disappointing and totally frustrating! Repeating, admin/athletic directors along the way who were satisfied with said mediocrity was also disheartening.

Yes, my standards are higher than most and no, I do not grade on a curve! Bottom line, one legitimate NC in (45) years is/was not acceptable.

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Also losing to Iowa 55-24 makes you very mediocre to say the least.
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You need to adjust your expectations. That's ridiculous.
 
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muffler dragon said:
It's not a non-sequitur. If you find something "unacceptable", then one option is to be a part of the solution.
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Like finding a more consistent qb and having a head coach who doesn't have a man crush on the current qb. Knowing no one is perfect, but doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is insanity. Maybe the current Buckeyes just aren't good enough to compete at an elite level consistently.

Beginning to think more and more 2014 was a fluke and Ohio State needs divine intervention to win a NC er the stars have to align. Basically my problem is wanting the Buckeye's to be more like 'bama and there is only one 'bama. Indeed, will never know if the Buckeyes win it all in 2014 w/JT. But no one can fault Urban for not being loyal.

It is what it is. My perspective.

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Eager to hear other folk on BP try to explain 55-24? Oklahoma was the better team, period end of story!
 
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shiloh said:
Like finding a more consistent qb and having a head coach who doesn't have a man crush on the current qb. Knowing no one is perfect, but doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is insanity. Maybe the current Buckeyes just aren't good enough to compete at an elite level consistently.

Beginning to think more and more 2014 was a fluke and Ohio State needs divine intervention to win a NC er the stars have to align. Basically my problem is wanting the Buckeye's to be more like 'bama and there is only one 'bama. Indeed, will never know if the Buckeyes win it all in 2014 w/JT. But no one can fault Urban for not being loyal.

It is what it is. My perspective.

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Eager to hear other folk on BP try to explain 55-24? Oklahoma was the better team, period end of story!
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It's truly a shame (or rather unconscionable to me) that the era we're living as Buckeye fans is disappointing and unacceptable to you.
 
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Losing 31-0 to Clemson and 55-24 to Iowa is not acceptable to me. Repeating, maybe the current Buckeyes just aren't good enough to compete at an elite level consistently.

Hopefully Urban was disappointed w/the Clemson/Iowa games as well.
 
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shiloh said:
Hopefully Urban was disappointed w/the Clemson/Iowa games as well.
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I doubt it. He seems to me to be the type of guy who'd just take the team out for ice cream to make sure they like him, rather what mistakes were made in those games and try to figure out what needs to be done to fix them. I mean, in six whole years (minus one game), the guy has lost a total of 8 games. I'd guess that kind of mediocrity can be found just about anywhere in college football at any level. Why bother paying him?

Edit: I originally had that he lost 7 games. It's 8 games in almost 6 full years.
 
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