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Game Thread 2017 Cotton Bowl: OSU vs. USC - 12/29/17 @ 8:30 ET (ESPN)

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Bill Lucas said:
You've tempered it quite a bit. Earlier you said that you expect Ohio State to be in the top 4 every year which is an entitled and unrealistic expectation. [Mark May] happens and believe it or not there are other great programs out there. Ohio State has been in the conversation every year of the playoff era which is amazing but apparently that isn't good enough for you.
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You’re right I am not going to settle for that no. I am still proud of Ohio State, but if Clemson can freaking go 3/4 years then so can we, if Bama can go 4/4 I honestly think 3/4 is reasonable for us. Right now we are probably the 3rd best program in the playoff era, barely above OU right now. Am I happy that I can say that? Absolutely. Am I a little disappointed still and hopeful to reach 1 or at least 2, absolutely. There is no reason we should not be 3 our 4 appearances but we allowed it to happen
 
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ZEKE103 said:
You’re right I am not going to settle for that no. I am still proud of Ohio State, but if Clemson can freaking go 3/4 years then so can we, if Bama can go 4/4 I honestly think 3/4 is reasonable for us. Right now we are probably the 3rd best program in the playoff era, barely above OU right now. Am I happy that I can say that? Absolutely. Am I a little disappointed still and hopeful to reach 1 or at least 2, absolutely. There is no reason we should not be 3 our 4 appearances but we allowed it to happen
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Sounds like you've got more riding on this than the casual fan.
How invested are you?
 
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shiloh said:
University admins obviously accepted mediocrity for most of the '60s/'70s/'80s/'90s and now it's nice that the university obviously no longer accepts mediocrity
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Ohio State's record, decade-by-decade, from 1960 thru 1999:
60s: 68-21-2. Best season 10-0 (1968, national champs), worst season 4-5 (1966). Two national titles ('61 and '68) and three conference titles (two outright, one shared with scUM).
70s: 91-20-3. Best season 10-0-1 (1973) plus 11-1 seasons in 1975 and 1979. Worst season 6-4 (1971). Eight conference titles (three outright, five shared with scUM).
80s: 82-35-2. Best season 10-3 (1986). Worst season 4-6-1 (Cooper's first year). Two shared conference titles. This record is skewed a bit by Cooper's first two years as head coach (12-10-1 '88 and '89). Bruce was Mister Nine and Three in the '80s, going 9-3 every year from '80 thru '85 and then going 10-3 in '86, before going 6-4-1 in '87 and getting fired (for a record of 70-25-1 in the '80s).
90s: 91-29-3. Best season(s) 11-1 (1996, 1998). Worst season 6-6. Three shared conference titles, and four runners-up (three outright, one shared). The overall record is marred by failures against scUM and in bowl games (3-6 in bowls, including the infamous Liberty Bowl loss to Air Force).

In summary, the '60s was hardly a "mediocre" decade, averaging a 7-2 season every year, with two national titles ('61 and '68). As for the '70s, not sure how averaging a 9-2 season every year, with a conference title almost every year, is "mediocre"...we were also two Rose Bowl losses from national title in 1975 and 1979. The '80s, at least under Bruce, were not "mediocre" either, but not quite up to the standard Woody had set from the late '60s thru the mid '70s. The first three seasons of the '90s started somewhat mediocre, but we did have a great six-year run afterwards which had five 10+ win seasons and two major bowl wins, along with going 9-3 on average for the decade, so I'd say the decade as a whole was above "mediocre".
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Cotton and peach weaseled their way into being New Years 6 bowls. Fiesta, sugar, rose and orange are historically the top bowls, but we needed 6 so there we go. A traditionalist will say WTf. Future generations will see cotton as great.
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Since you mentioned the word "historically. . ."

Anecdotally, growing up in the 80s, the Cotton Bowl was a bigger deal than the Fiesta. So was the Citrus.

I am sure this has been discussed before or that there is some metric to determine which bowls are historically important. But that is how mah daddy raised me.

Edit: also, to show my intense child logic: I assumed the peach was a big deal because it was a fruit like the orange. So. . .
 
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kinch said:
Since you mentioned the word "historically. . ."

Anecdotally, growing up in the 80s, the Cotton Bowl was a bigger deal than the Fiesta. So was the Citrus.

I am sure this has been discussed before or that there is some metric to determine which bowls are historically important. But that is how mah daddy raised me.

Edit: also, to show my intense child logic: I assumed the peach was a big deal because it was a fruit like the orange. So. . .
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Going off of this, the Cotton Bowl has done very well in the last decade or so. Look at the attendance figures, they were drawing higher figures than most of the BCS games just before the NY6/CFP was created. The Orange Bowl is the real stinker to be honest. And we've been to the Fiesta a zillion times.
 
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J.T. BARRETT, CHRIS WORLEY WOULD BE “SHOCKED” IF ANY OHIO STATE PLAYERS SKIP COTTON BOWL TO PREPARE FOR NFL DRAFT

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Ohio State quarterback J.T. Barrett could only shake his head in disbelief at the question he had just been asked.

“The trend of players maybe skipping the bowl game to maybe tend to their own personal matters, do you foresee that happening here?” a reporter asked Sunday, as Barrett rolled his eyes before the question was even complete. “What would you say to somebody who might be thinking of doing that?”

As Ohio State prepares to play USC in the Cotton Bowl, a non-College Football Playoff bowl game that some might say doesn’t matter, it’s a valid question to be asked. In recent years, a trend has started to gain momentum – a trend that began in part because of Ohio State’s last non-playoff bowl game, the Fiesta Bowl two seasons ago, when Notre Dame linebacker and projected top-10 NFL draft pick Jaylon Smith suffered a serious knee injury – of players who are projected to be top NFL draft picks choosing to skip their final bowl games in order to stay healthy and begin preparing for their pre-draft workouts.

Most notably, former LSU running back Leonard Fournette and former Stanford running back Christian McCaffrey – who both went on to be top-10 picks in the 2017 NFL draft – chose to skip their teams’ bowl games last year. Texas left tackle Connor Williams, a projected high first-round pick in the 2018 NFL draft, announced last week that he would forgo the Longhorns’ bowl game to begin preparing for his professional football career.

For Ohio State’s potential 2018 NFL draft picks, however, Barrett – who did the opposite of protecting himself for a potential professional football career by playing in Saturday’s Big Ten Championship Game just six days after undergoing knee surgery – does not expect skipping the Cotton Bowl to even be a consideration.

"I don't know what the people have done in these past couple of years. I don't know them personally. But I guess the brotherhood and the bond that we have in the Ohio State locker room, I would be very shocked," Barrett said. "If somebody was like, yeah, I'm not going to play in the bowl game, Cotton Bowl against USC, I think that would be wild."

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ers-skip-cotton-bowl-to-prepare-for-nfl-draft
 
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Yeah, I thought the Cotton Bowl was kind of a big deal in the '80's when we went then. Somehow they screwed the pooch in the 90's and got left out of the BCS system, kind of jumped by Fiesta. I think they got a patron saint in Jerry to bring the now "Cotton Bowl Classic" to his house and now they're back in the club. Bummer it's not on new years day though.
 
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Zander42 said:
Yeah, I thought the Cotton Bowl was kind of a big deal in the '80's when we went then. Somehow they screwed the pooch in the 90's and got left out of the BCS system, kind of jumped by Fiesta. I think they got a patron saint in Jerry to bring the now "Cotton Bowl Classic" to his house and now they're back in the club. Bummer it's not on new years day though.
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Yeah I don't understand. Its the most "prestigious" bowl outside of the CFP and its still not considered a NY6 bowl?

How about moving the 2nd rate Citrus bowl to Dec 29th?
 
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