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2017 College Football Thread

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NFBuck said:
Or he's just a lazy recruiter that knew he couldn't win without taking on academically challenged kids. Jokes on him, turns out he apparently can't win with them, either.
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Obviously we don't know what went on behind the scenes when Andersen took the job, but he knew what the Wisconsin program was like. He wanted to change the identity of UW football by recruiting heavy west coast/outside the Midwest and run more of a spread. It's what he knew and I get that. It's ambitious and admirable, but absolutely not what Wisconsin needed.

He knew the high academic standards when he signed on. He knew how much trouble UW had recruiting abroad, hence their recruiting tactics of lock down local and develop. But he didn't like that. He pissed off a decent number of high school coaches in the state with the way he spurned local guys, and that really threatened the recruiting stranglehold UW has within the Wisconsin borders.

Alvarez may be a controlling AD, but he knows what he's about. I personally think Andersen just couldn't handle the pressure UW fans put on their team to win now while he was still trying to change everything from the ground up. He wanted to do it his way. Which again, I totally understand, but that's not what Wisconsin has ever been about. I think Oregon State is a much better fit for him. Even knowing this, his abrupt departure still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Not sure what he was expecting.
 
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Bucky32 said:
Obviously we don't know what went on behind the scenes when Andersen took the job, but he knew what the Wisconsin program was like. He wanted to change the identity of UW football by recruiting heavy west coast/outside the Midwest and run more of a spread. It's what he knew and I get that. It's ambitious and admirable, but absolutely not what Wisconsin needed.

He knew the high academic standards when he signed on. He knew how much trouble UW had recruiting abroad, hence their recruiting tactics of lock down local and develop. But he didn't like that. He pissed off a decent number of high school coaches in the state with the way he spurned local guys, and that really threatened the recruiting stranglehold UW has within the Wisconsin borders.

Alvarez may be a controlling AD, but he knows what he's about. I personally think Andersen just couldn't handle the pressure UW fans put on their team to win now while he was still trying to change everything from the ground up. He wanted to do it his way. Which again, I totally understand, but that's not what Wisconsin has ever been about. I think Oregon State is a much better fit for him. Even knowing this, his abrupt departure still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Not sure what he was expecting.
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This is all nicely written and thoughtful, but have I had a chance to say F you for letting Penn State win the B1G yet?
 
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NFBuck said:
Academic restrictions or not, that was an absolutely awful career move. Wiscy is probably a top fifteen, top twenty job in the country. Going to Corvallis to coach a program that is probably a bottom third of that conference job was just insane.
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I don't know that Wisconsin is that good of a job. It's a winning program right now. Not much room for a coach to make their own mark. It's still Barry Alvarez' program.
 
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Woody1968 said:
I don't know that Wisconsin is that good of a job. It's a winning program right now. Not much room for a coach to make their own mark. It's still Barry Alvarez' program.
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I think it's a great job for the right kind of coach....like Bert or a Chryst. Old-school guys that coach smash-mouth football. It works well in the B1G, and the B1G West in particular. They have a system that has been mostly unchanged for two plus decades, and they've been very successful. Now, it absolutely has its limitations. It's not a "sexy" offense, so they're never going to fill up recruiting classes with 4 and 5 star kids. And that will probably always limit them as far as challenging for more than the occasional conference championship and solid New Years Six bowl games. They'll probably never be a national title caliber program. And, for the most part, their fanbase seems pretty okay with that. Run a clean program, win 8-11 games a year and get them to some nice bowl games and they won't bitch. I think, relatively speaking, it's a pretty low-pressure gig.

The Andersen hire was a curious move from the get-go. So, in retrospect, it's not too surprising it went south in such a hurry.
 
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