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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

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Iowa 55, Ohio State 24

bukIpower said:
At least there's this... we are done now this year so now I can just relax and watch football.
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bukIpower said:
Resume and results should've been taken into account well before the "eye test"
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Resume' and results were taken into account. Unfortunately, it isn't just about who you beat but also who beat you. Not only did the Bucks lose twice, they flunked the "eye test" in those losses.
 
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Looking back at this thread while having my lunch I can only conclude some folks have short memories, or perhaps went through the concussion protocol between Iowa and yesterday.

We all wanted in the playoff (well, 99% of us anyway), but we didn't get it. It's one thing to hope for a bid, it's another to expect it. There was no reason to expect it yesterday.

I just wish Alabama and Georgia had played each other during the season, but with 14 team conferences you're always going to have unbalanced schedules. That's true for the B1G as well.
 
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Jake said:
Looking back at this thread while having my lunch I can only conclude some folks have short memories, or perhaps went through the concussion protocol between Iowa and yesterday.

We all wanted in the playoff (well, 99% of us anyway), but we didn't get it. It's one thing to hope for a bid, it's another to expect it. There was no reason to expect it yesterday.

I just wish Alabama and Georgia had played each other during the season, but with 14 team conferences you're always going to have unbalanced schedules. That's true for the B1G as well.
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Well after the Iowa game most of us probably wouldn't have expected a 48-3 win against MSU and then beating #4 Wisconsin to win the Big Ten Title.

There was also some other chaos that brought us back into consideration. You can't just say Iowa and end the discussion. The gap between #3 and #4 is large. In a normal year a loss like Iowa would have been an automatic elimination but this year there was going to be a very flawed #4 team
 
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Dryden said:
...I'm a little bit pissed we were used to drive ratings for their made-for-TV selection show when the committee had apparently determined there was no way Ohio State was getting in weeks ago.
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That's the bit that reflects worst on the committee, and it's kind of surprising in my view. Does the playoff selection committee really care what ESPN's ratings are for the selection show? I wouldn't have thought so, and yet that seems like the only explanation, outside of Hocutt just blurting things out unthinkingly, for his making an obviously false comment like that last week, about their deliberations.
 
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Jake said:
Looking back at this thread while having my lunch I can only conclude some folks have short memories, or perhaps went through the concussion protocol between Iowa and yesterday.

We all wanted in the playoff (well, 99% of us anyway), but we didn't get it. It's one thing to hope for a bid, it's another to expect it. There was no reason to expect it yesterday.
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What you wrote is true in a vaccuum. But there are other facts here. When the chairman of the selection committee comes out on national TV a few days before the final rankings are revealed and says there is "very little separation" between Alabama and OSU, and in the days between making that statement and the final rankings being revealed, OSU beats previously undefeated Wisconsin on a neutral field to win a conference championship game while Alabama sits around and watches TV, I don't think it's unreasonable at all for some OSU fans to expect that. The expectation was created by Hocutt, not by OSU fans who "went through the concussion protocol."

Look, end of the day, I'm fine with OSU not making it, as I don't really think they deserved it. But that isn't mutually exclusive with thinking OSU would be in after listening to what Hocutt said last Tuesday and watching the results of this weekend's games.
 
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Jake said:
Iowa 55, Ohio State 24



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Resume' and results were taken into account. Unfortunately, it isn't just about who you beat but also who beat you. Not only did the Bucks lose twice, they flunked the "eye test" in those losses.
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Jake I will say one thing. Do you think anyone get's in on the resume Bama had as the 2nd of a conference if the name on the front of the jersey isn't Bama.
 
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There is so much subjectivity involved and the committee’s protocol/rules do almost nothing to bring objectivity and transparency into the fray when selecting the four teams. They need to identify a list of factors, e.g. quality wins (wins over top 25), conference championships, etc., and give points with weight given to factors they value more. They also need to penalize teams for certain things, e.g. scheduling FCS teams, losing to unranked teams, losing by more than 2 TDS, etc. With that said, the game lends itself to subjectivity, i.e, The Eye Test, so you have to account for that. Throw in a miscellaneous category that would allow the committee to add a small amount of points for subjective considerations.

A system like this would let the coaches, administrators and players know what they have to do to get in the playoffs, thereby incentiving and deterring certain things. At the same time, it provides transparency to all of those people and the fans.

Also, I like a 6 team playoff. There should be a reward for being in the top 3. A bye week would accomplish that.
 
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Jake said:
Looking back at this thread while having my lunch I can only conclude some folks have short memories, or perhaps went through the concussion protocol between Iowa and yesterday.

We all wanted in the playoff (well, 99% of us anyway), but we didn't get it. It's one thing to hope for a bid, it's another to expect it. There was no reason to expect it yesterday.

I just wish Alabama and Georgia had played each other during the season, but with 14 team conferences you're always going to have unbalanced schedules. That's true for the B1G as well.
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It is too bad they didn't play. Maybe if they played 9 conference games they would have. If only something like that happens elsewhere it could have been used against them them to move to 9 conference games. But hypothetically if there are conferences who play 9 conference games, they should probably move to 8 just to be sure.
 
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Jake said:
Iowa 55, Ohio State 24



A month later...



Resume' and results were taken into account. Unfortunately, it isn't just about who you beat but also who beat you. Not only did the Bucks lose twice, they flunked the "eye test" in those losses.
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Again my point isn't that OSU was heads and shoulders screwed over... it is that Alabama didn't earn their spot.

Last year we had 3 top 10 wins and got the benefit, and I would've understood had Alabama had those quality wins.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
There truly.isnt a benefit to playing 9 conference games. Theoretically there could be, and maybe should be, but the committee clearly shows that they don't reward you for it. Therefore, if everyone isn't at 9, you are stupid not to go to 8 and fill it with an awful team.
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Yep and It won't be addressed but whatever I suppose.

It clearly didn't benefit us and probably got us matched up with Iowa as a result. They spoke clearly yesterday though in that you need to look good if you aren't going to win your championship and that's a little harder to do when you play Oklahoma non conference and play a 9th conference team instead of Akron. I would rather us play a tougher schedule but if you aren't going to be rewarded for doing it then why the hell would you do it?

Less is more apparently.
 
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