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Game Thread 2015 Sugar Bowl: (1) Alabama vs. (4) Ohio State, Jan 1st @ 8:30p ET, ESPN (civilized thread)

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Enduro R said:
Here you go, BayBuck. Just one example for you. I am not on here to blow smoke up anyone's ass. Just trying to be part of the conversation. Feel free to challenge my statements any time you feel the need.http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/10/alabama_reports_1434_million_i.html
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Don't see anything about academic scholarships there... just more smoke and mirrors. Looks like it's all staying in the AD, as expected.
BTW it's considered fraud for organizations to reallocate earmarked donations to other purposes.
It's your money to donate as you please - but stop bsing that such donations have any connection to academics.

Alabama has since expanded its football stadium and reaped the benefits of new SEC television deals.
In 2012-13, Alabama listed spending $18.5 million on coaches' salaries and $11.1 million on athletically related student aid -- a difference of $7.4 million. That gap was $6.6 million in Alabama's 2011-12 EADA report.
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Alabama reported that 52 percent of its athletically related student aid went to men's teams and 48 percent to women's teams.
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Gcashwell said:
Miss State was held under 31 pts three times. Dak was in the running for the Heisman for a good chunk of the season. He is also very hard to tackle with decent speed. I would take a comparison to that team as a compliment.

If Cardale throws three picks like Dak did, yes you're done. But that was an atypical game for Dak.
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Please, any other conference and Dak never gets mentioned in the same breath as the Heisman. He's just not very good. Neither is Miss St's offense compared to the level we're discussing here. They got where they did thanks to their D.
 
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BayBuck said:
So athletic revenues are way up when the football team is successful. Not really the point you were making, but sure, I believe it.
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In 2013, Alabama's athletic department revenues provided $6.5 million to academic scholarships. OSU's athletic department contributed $5 million to their academic scholarships. Most universities that have athletic program balance sheets in the black help their schools with academic scholarships. See the link.http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissm...e-teams-2013-texas-longhorns-cant-be-stopped/
 
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Gcashwell said:
The site I'm using has him at 4.64. It's not affiliated with any team so I tend to trust it's numbers more - nfldraftscout.com.
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Devin is a 4.4 guy. Here are his track numbers

PRs
60m - 7.01
100m - 10.56
High Jump - 2.15m (7-0.50)
Long Jump - 7.49m (24-7.00)

Jalin is a 4.45-4.5 guy. He's a very versatile player and his strength and vision are as strong as his athleticism. He is not a scorcher but has good speed and quickness. I would describe him as a quick north south tailback with good hands and elusiveness. He can dance around you but will also run through tacklers and stay patient for small we quality gains.

Dontre is hard to rate. He is cat quick, not strong (though far better than last year), and ud describe him as quicker than fast. His 0-20 is very good while I'd submit that his top end speed is just good. He's a slasher and a more natural fit as a slot back. You don't want to pound him up the middle.

Thomas looks like a 4.6 guy, except he rarely gets caught. I bet he'll end up running around 4.5 and cast more confusion over the measuring stick.
 
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kujirakira said:
Don't see anything about academic scholarships there... just more smoke and mirrors. Looks like it's all staying in the AD, as expected.
BTW it's considered fraud for organizations to reallocate earmarked donations to other purposes.
It's your money to donate as you please - but stop bsing that such donations have any connection to academics.
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Well, here you go. I guess Forbes is spewing smoke and mirrors too? Our athletic department spends more on academic scholarships than OSU's does. I found that surprising given your revenues are around the same as ours if not a little higher.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissm...e-teams-2013-texas-longhorns-cant-be-stopped/
 
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Enduro R said:
In 2013, Alabama's athletic department revenues provided $6.5 million to academic scholarships. OSU's athletic department contributed $5 million to their academic scholarships. Most universities that have athletic program balance sheets in the black help their schools with academic scholarships. See the link.http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissm...e-teams-2013-texas-longhorns-cant-be-stopped/
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That's not what it says at all. Once again I have to wonder why people with poor reading comprehension post on message boards.

Florida led the way last year, contributing $7.2 million to academic programming, with $1.5 million of that earmarked for non-athletic scholarships. Alabama wasn’t far behind, providing nearly $6.5 million to the university to help pay for scholarships, faculty support and the school’s Acts of Kindness fund.
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BTW that's a grand total of 4.5% that goes to non-athletic stuff (not scholarships). And it's not coming from donations to the AD.
No matter how desperately you want to spin it, the following remains laughable bs:

Enduro R said:
Correct. It seems that most alumni donate to the sports program. They also join more sports related clubs for alumni in order to get preferred seating at sporting events. The funds still seem to find their way to the front office for academic scholarships, etc.
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kujirakira said:
Please, any other conference and Dak never gets mentioned in the same breath as the Heisman. He's just not very good. Neither is Miss St's offense compared to the level we're discussing here. They got where they did thanks to their D.
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Mississippi State is ranked 9th in total offense. OSU 8th. However, MSU had a SOS ranking of 7, OSU had a SOS ranking of 38. I don't buy into SOS rankings much, but it is probable that Miss State played tougher competition and was ranked very close to OSU in total offense.

Quick google search of Dak and the Heisman:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s-mariota-melvin-gordon-todd-gurley/17212421/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...mariota-dak-prescott-trevone-boykin/18786859/
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...--but-opportunity-awaits-072344063-ncaaf.html
 
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Gcashwell said:
Mississippi State is ranked 9th in total offense. OSU 8th. However, MSU had a SOS ranking of 7, OSU had a SOS ranking of 38. I don't buy into SOS rankings much, but it is probable that Miss State played tougher competition and was ranked very close to OSU in total offense.

Quick google search of Dak and the Heisman:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s-mariota-melvin-gordon-todd-gurley/17212421/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...mariota-dak-prescott-trevone-boykin/18786859/
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...--but-opportunity-awaits-072344063-ncaaf.html
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They're ranked 15th in points, Ohio State is 4th with more than a 7pt difference.
 
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kujirakira said:
That's not what it says at all. Once again I have to wonder why people with poor reading comprehension post on message boards.



BTW that's a grand total of 4.5% that goes to non-athletic stuff (not scholarships). And it's not coming from donations to the AD.
No matter how desperately you want to spin it, the following remains laughable bs:
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I digress. My post was trying to convey that donating to the athletic department helps with the success of athletics, which in turn creates more revenue. This trickles down to more academic scholarships, which it does. I tried to be clear on that. i.e "trickle down". You have no idea how they mark donations to the AD. At the end of the day, its revenue. Do you troll your own message board often? Seems like all you come on here to do is argue with every poster that isn't in your kuji fan club. Try conversing without being confrontational. It's quite a bit more welcoming that way.
 
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