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2014 TSUN Shenanigans and Arguments

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Zurp said:
Thinking about 1973, why was Michigan screwed? If the positions had been flipped, would they be saying that Ohio State got screwed? I understand that Ohio State went after the 1972 season, and that Franklin was injured, but that's irrelevant, in my opinion.
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Last season, BTN had Archie on during the Purdue game to promote the show. He said Michigan shouldn't complain because "We played at their place and they still didn't beat us." I think, though, that had Franklin not been injured Michigan would've gone to the Rose Bowl.
 
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Zurp said:
Thinking about 1973, why was Michigan screwed? If the positions had been flipped, would they be saying that Ohio State got screwed? I understand that Ohio State went after the 1972 season, and that Franklin was injured, but that's irrelevant, in my opinion.
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Check the thread for that BTN show they did about it. I felt the same way. They all acted like it was obviously going to be Michigan going as soon as the game was over. Even when my dad told me the story when I was a kid, he made it seem like he expected it to be Michigan.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Last season, BTN had Archie on during the Purdue game to promote the show. He said Michigan shouldn't complain because "We played at their place and they still didn't beat us." I think, though, that had Franklin not been injured Michigan would've gone to the Rose Bowl.
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Probably, since something like 6 of the 10 people who voted for it had ties to Michigan. Of course, they act like they got screwed because somebody with Michigan ties didn't just blindly pick Michigan.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
They feel screwed because they're a bunch of whiny bitches.
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Check the thread for that BTN show they did about it. I felt the same way. They all acted like it was obviously going to be Michigan going as soon as the game was over. Even when my dad told me the story when I was a kid, he made it seem like he expected it to be Michigan.
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I had heard that Woody even expected Michigan to be going to the bowl game. Somewhere (probably in the BTN show), they said that the Buckeye players had already started cleaning out their lockers for the year. I just haven't heard a good reason why Michigan should've been the team to go. "We got screwed" comes up over and over from Michigan fans. But that means they should've been the team to go to the Rose Bowl, and I haven't heard any evidence that reflects that. Maybe it was based on Franklin's injury. In which case, fine. I'd like to think that vote shouldn't take injuries into account, but maybe 1 or more AD DID take that into account. But saying "we outplayed Ohio State that day" is crap. Should we claim victory in 1996? Or complaining that Ohio State went to the Rose Bowl the year before, so they shouldn't be allowed to this year is crap. Do Michigan fans complain about being allowed to go to a non-Rose Bowl starting whatever year that started? You use the rules you have today - not yesterday's or tomorrow's rules.
 
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Zurp said:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=2019&t=12790216
There's still awfully butthurt about 1974. (Mike Lantry missed a field goal that they think he made. It would have won the game for Michigan.)
1972, also. (Some guy they think scored a touchdown, but he was called down. They lost 14-11.)
1973, too. What's the German word? Schadenfraude?
Michigan fans love to bring up 1969. I like to bring up the seniors of 1974, who lost 2 games in 3 years, and never played in a bowl game.
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I was sitting almost directly behind the goal post. He choked and missed it. One of my greatest Buckeye memories. They need to get over it.
 
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buckeyeintn said:
I was sitting almost directly behind the goal post. He choked and missed it. One of my greatest Buckeye memories. They need to get over it.
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Awesome. I was still a year and a half away from being born, so my only memory of seeing it is the footage I linked. With no depth perception, there's no way to be sure he made or missed it. It sure seems to go pretty far to the left, though. Also, from the descriptions I've heard from Michigan sites, the whole stadium went silent because they all knew he made the kick, and erupted when the refs blew the call. But seriously, on a close kick, how many people in the stands can tell whether it was good? Not many. It sounds as though you could tell, but I'd bet 99% of the stadium had to wait for the call from the ref, assuming the kick really was close. I was in C deck, west sideline, about the 10 yard line near the open end when Ohio State beat Purdue in 2003 in overtime. Purdue needed to make a field goal to extend the game to a second overtime. That kick was REAL close. I couldn't tell if he made it, though. The stadium got pretty quiet, because we couldn't tell if it was good or not. It wasn't because we thought it was good - we were waiting to cheer or not based on referee's call.
 
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Zurp said:
Awesome. I was still a year and a half away from being born, so my only memory of seeing it is the footage I linked. With no depth perception, there's no way to be sure he made or missed it. It sure seems to go pretty far to the left, though. Also, from the descriptions I've heard from Michigan sites, the whole stadium went silent because they all knew he made the kick, and erupted when the refs blew the call. But seriously, on a close kick, how many people in the stands can tell whether it was good? Not many. It sounds as though you could tell, but I'd bet 99% of the stadium had to wait for the call from the ref, assuming the kick really was close. I was in C deck, west sideline, about the 10 yard line near the open end when Ohio State beat Purdue in 2003 in overtime. Purdue needed to make a field goal to extend the game to a second overtime. That kick was REAL close. I couldn't tell if he made it, though. The stadium got pretty quiet, because we couldn't tell if it was good or not. It wasn't because we thought it was good - we were waiting to cheer or not based on referee's call.
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I could tell well enough that the girl next to me (who I had never seen before) and I immediately started hugging each other and and jumping up and down screaming. Of course, if the kick would have been wide (which it was not), I would have felt it was my duty to console her.:cool:
 
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buckeyeintn said:
I could tell well enough that the girl next to me (who I had never seen before) and I immediately started hugging each other and and jumping up and down screaming. Of course, if the kick would have been wide (which it was not), I would have felt it was my duty to console her.:cool:
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You are a great American who always thinks of others. I salute you.
 
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