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2014 tOSU Defense Discussion

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Urban Meyer's revamped D holds map to Ohio State's playoff path

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Urban Meyer produced a pair of national championship defenses at Florida, both of which ranked in the Top 10 in the country. But when he needed to overhaul Ohio State’s subpar unit last winter, Meyer couldn’t fall back on a successful scheme from 2006 or ’08.

“The offenses have changed so much since our days at Florida,” he said in an interview Sunday. “We were a man-free [safety], Cover 2 team. Spread offenses would tear that apart.”

All manner of offenses tore apart the Buckeyes’ 2013 defense, even as Ohio State won its first 12 contests and reached the Big Ten championship game. Normally run-heavy Wisconsin threw for 295 yards in Ohio State’s conference opener. Northwestern completed 25-of-31 attempts for 343 yards the following week. And a previously dysfunctional Michigan offense erupted for 603 total yards in the teams’ Thanksgiving weekend rivalry game.

The Buckeyes survived those scares, but the wheels finally came off in their season-ending losses to Michigan State(34-24 in Indianapolis) and Clemson (40-35 in the Orange Bowl). Ohio State was hardly lacking for talent what with a consensus All-American linebacker (Ryan Shazier), a first-round NFL cornerback (Bradley Roby) and a roster full of former blue-chippers. So Meyer deemed it time to change the scheme.

“I wanted to change our pass defense,” he said. “I wanted a challenge-every-throw mentality.”

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Well IMO it's gonna be rough, our biggest issue remains the back seven. I had a conversation with a coach and I asked him is LJ Sr excited about the defensive line he inherited. He said yes, but they need to improve a lot on their fundamentals, in fact LJ thought the defensive line was over rated last year and put the overall defense in bad spots last year. It was all or nothing for them. I expect this year we see the sack number lower than last year but we'll be playing more under control and guys will adhere to their responsibilities.

LB recruiting we have been guilty in the past few recruiting cycles of chasing athletes rather than football players for these positions. Now one positive is that the 2014 class is very good, and I like the 2015 almost as much so in the future this should be fixed because Luke can coach this position. (provided he sticks around) however we sure missed the previous years and it's catching up to us.

The secondary needs the freshman to contribute bottom line. We have some great athletes but we need more play makers. Something this team lacks the last couple of years. I would kill for a kid like a Kurt Coleman on this roster much less a Whitner or a Doss. Somebody who can change momentum with a heady play. Maybe Von Bell develops into that. We can only hope. I get to check out practice next week I'm excited to see the new DC and how he works with kids, I'll let you guys know what I see.
 
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unionfutura said:
Well IMO it's gonna be rough, our biggest issue remains the back seven. I had a conversation with a coach and I asked him is LJ Sr excited about the defensive line he inherited. He said yes, but they need to improve a lot on their fundamentals, in fact LJ thought the defensive line was over rated last year and put the overall defense in bad spots last year. It was all or nothing for them. I expect this year we see the sack number lower than last year but we'll be playing more under control and guys will adhere to their responsibilities.

LB recruiting we have been guilty in the past few recruiting cycles of chasing athletes rather than football players for these positions. Now one positive is that the 2014 class is very good, and I like the 2015 almost as much so in the future this should be fixed because Luke can coach this position. (provided he sticks around) however we sure missed the previous years and it's catching up to us.

The secondary needs the freshman to contribute bottom line. We have some great athletes but we need more play makers. Something this team lacks the last couple of years. I would kill for a kid like a Kurt Coleman on this roster much less a Whitner or a Doss. Somebody who can change momentum with a heady play. Maybe Von Bell develops into that. We can only hope. I get to check out practice next week I'm excited to see the new DC and how he works with kids, I'll let you guys know what I see.
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Good stuff. Always appreciate the insight, union.
 
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unionfutura said:
Well IMO it's gonna be rough, our biggest issue remains the back seven. I had a conversation with a coach and I asked him is LJ Sr excited about the defensive line he inherited. He said yes, but they need to improve a lot on their fundamentals, in fact LJ thought the defensive line was over rated last year and put the overall defense in bad spots last year. It was all or nothing for them. I expect this year we see the sack number lower than last year but we'll be playing more under control and guys will adhere to their responsibilities.

LB recruiting we have been guilty in the past few recruiting cycles of chasing athletes rather than football players for these positions. Now one positive is that the 2014 class is very good, and I like the 2015 almost as much so in the future this should be fixed because Luke can coach this position. (provided he sticks around) however we sure missed the previous years and it's catching up to us.

The secondary needs the freshman to contribute bottom line. We have some great athletes but we need more play makers. Something this team lacks the last couple of years. I would kill for a kid like a Kurt Coleman on this roster much less a Whitner or a Doss. Somebody who can change momentum with a heady play. Maybe Von Bell develops into that. We can only hope. I get to check out practice next week I'm excited to see the new DC and how he works with kids, I'll let you guys know what I see.
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Unfortunately our 2 guys in 2013 had one guy who was a supreme athlete but not yet a "football player" and another who was supposed to be a good athlete and a great "football player." The athlete's gone and the football player hasn't done much yet.
 
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I am very excited to see how our defense performs tomorrow, even if it won't be a true test of our revamped pass defense.

I know there's been more than enough discussion of the 2013 defense so this will be the last thing I say about them, but I was watching the B1G title game today and, holy Mary mother of Jesus, was that a bad defense. No assignment integrity, the 3 levels of d had no cohesion, terrible angles, poor tackling. On and on. It was just chaos out there, and not in a good, swarming to the ball from all angles kind of way.
 
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Tanner said:
I am very excited to see how our defense performs tomorrow, even if it won't be a true test of our revamped pass defense.

I know there's been more than enough discussion of the 2013 defense so this will be the last thing I say about them, but I was watching the B1G title game today and, holy Mary mother of Jesus, was that a bad defense. No assignment integrity, the 3 levels of d had no cohesion, terrible angles, poor tackling. On and on. It was just chaos out there, and not in a good, swarming to the ball from all angles kind of way.
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Ha, yea. Epically bad.

It was.

Ash got brought in for a job. Hopefully it pays off.
 
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I want to see improvement over the last 3 games of last year...a lot of the personel is the same so this is where Ash comes in. What would be an acceptable outing ..just a win baby or something statistical(less than 20 points and less than 275 total yards?
 
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