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2014 Preseason and Regular Season Polls

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I have a sneaking suspicion the committee may preemptively jump Baylor over us.
But yea, the fact that Baylor finishes with KState is crucial to current order of TCU and Baylor. Personally it's hard not to take the head-to-head game as somewhat flukish as well... I'm honestly not sure how to judge that kind of a historical meltdown and comeback.
As it stands right now:
TCU - lost to #7, wins over #12, 18, 20
Ohio State - lost to UR, wins over #10, 18
Baylor - lost to UR, wins over #5, 20

It's easy to see why the committee feels TCU has the better resume ... but Baylor has a chance to add #12, and Ohio State to add #14 while TCU plays Iowa State.

Biggest rooting interests for this weekend have to include Oklahoma State knocking OU out of the top25... or at least down a few pegs. Other than that, hoping for any of the top-4 to be upset.
I think rooting interest is for Baylor to beat KState... that will cause KSU to drop, keeping them even with Wiscy provided Ohio State wins. Otherwise a KState win jumps them up and significantly enhances TCU's resume while eliminating any discussion about TCU-Baylor head-to-head and champions. Ideal scenario is for Iowa State and KState to get upsets... but... I've got 0 faith in Iowa State to do anything, so that leaves devaluing KState as the best option.

Disclaimer: A lot of the current numbers will change tomorrow, but I think they still give a general idea of why TCU > Ohio State > Baylor has been the norm.
10 MSU, 12 KSU, and 14 Wiscy should benefit from losses by Georgia, UCLA, ASU ... MSU may even benefit from Miss St.
18 Minnesota will drop into the 20s
20 OU will move up with some losses
 
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Mike80 said:
Actually I think TCU will still be considered a conference champion. They'll split with Baylor due to the same record.

We'll just see what happens.
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They will be co-champs but they will submit Baylors name as the conference champs to the committee based on head to head matchup..they've talked about this ad nauseam here on the radio..
 
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Has the committee talked about the importance of conference champs, or the winners of conference championship games? I believe they have talked about the winners of conference championships having an edge. That would give the Bucks (assuming they win) an edge over Baylor and TCU.
 
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OHSportsFan said:
From a VaTech fan/blogger

11 in a row ‏@BeerControl 2m2 minutes ago
Since VT at 6-6 is Ohio State's bad loss, shouldn't wvu and their 7-5 record be basically the same for Baylor?
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buckeyesin07 said:
Similarly, I haven't heard much of an uproar about the fact that Baylor needed to stop a 2-point conversion in order to preserve a victory against a 4-8 Texas Tech team last weekend.
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Meanwhile, TCU is getting all kinds of love for beating a 6-6 Texas team whose quarterback couldn't stop throwing the ball directly to a TCU defender.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
They will be co-champs but they will submit Baylors name as the conference champs to the committee based on head to head matchup..they've talked about this ad nauseam here on the radio..
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They specifically said today on TV that the Big XII will not implement the tie-breaker between TCU and Baylor and will declare them co-champs. The same co-champ designation would apply should KSU beat Baylor (KSU also has one conference loss) and TCU win.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
They specifically said today on TV that the Big XII will not implement the tie-breaker between TCU and Baylor and will declare them co-champs. The same co-champ designation would apply should KSU beat Baylor (KSU also has one conference loss) and TCU win.
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Yeah I just heard that this morning... I was quoting something earlier... my bad.

They were asking for new slogans for the BIG XII since the "One true champion" wasn't exactly true this year.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
They specifically said today on TV that the Big XII will not implement the tie-breaker between TCU and Baylor and will declare them co-champs. The same co-champ designation would apply should KSU beat Baylor (KSU also has one conference loss) and TCU win.
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So they've changed their minds from a few weeks ago?
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Which is sort of funny because the argument for going to divisions and championship games (besides money) was to determine "true" champions and avoid 2- or 3-way ties at the top.
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I could see them not declaring a champ if there were a 3-way tie with the teams defeating each other in a circular fashion (e.g., 2008, in which Texas Tech defeated Texas who defeated Oklahoma who defeated Texas Tech), but with a 2-way tie, it seems ridiculous not to go with the head-to-head winner.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
I could see them not declaring a champ if there were a 3-way tie with the teams defeating each other in a circular fashion (e.g., 2008, in which Texas Tech defeated Texas who defeated Oklahoma who defeated Texas Tech), but with a 2-way tie, it seems ridiculous not to go with the head-to-head winner.
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You're mistaking the Big 12 doing this for the reason of them believing it to be true with them solely doing it to give their conference the best chance for a representative.

Edit: In other words, if it were Baylor at #4 and currently kicking ass, and TCU at #6 and barely beating crappy teams, you'd better believe that they would say Baylor is the champion due to head to head.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
You're mistaking the Big 12 doing this for the reason of them believing it to be true with them solely doing it to give their conference the best chance for a representative.

Edit: In other words, if it were Baylor at #4 and currently kicking ass, and TCU at #6 and barely beating crappy teams, you'd better believe that they would say Baylor is the champion due to head to head.
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I'm well aware of the Big 12's true intentions.
 
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