2014 Preseason and Regular Season Polls

[MililaniBuckeye]

I think 16 teams does this. 4 teams absolutely doesn't. 8 teams? I could be swayed either way.

Eight might be the best number. There are six-eight teams this year that could have a legitimate claim to being in the playoff this year...

Merge the "power 5" into a "power 4". Conference winners in a 4 team playoff. None of this [Mark May] about 8 teams... You win your conference you get a chance at the title...don't win your conference enjoy the bowl games

This won't happen until Notre Lame joins one of those conferences...

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

On a side note... I'm calling my shot on Chaos Theory this year... I'll post all top 15 to 20 teams remaining schedules and their win & loses..

I wont do conference champs because that's a bitch...

IMHO ... this year will end up making 08 look like it was 2 undefeated teams going for the national title

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

On a side note... I'm calling my shot on Chaos Theory this year... I'll post all top 15 to 20 teams remaining schedules and their win & loses..

I wont do conference champs because that's a bitch...

IMHO ... this year will end up making 08 look like it was 2 undefeated teams going for the national title

I actually saw a very helpful flow chart type diagram before you sink some time I to it.

Here it is. Doesn't have w/l but shows who they still have to play (but not who's home). Nov 8 is going to be a crazy weekend, and not just for OSU: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-football/2014/10/42049/still-so-early-a-graphic

 

[SEREbuckeye]

Two years ago there were six power conferences. Now there are five.

2 years ago though the Big East had 1 power-ish team - Louisville. The rest consisted of tier 3 teams. It was nowhere near the conference it was in 2001 when Miami was dominant. The departures of Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Pitt, and West Virginia is what did that conference in. They were left with no strong TV Markets to continue to contend with the big boys.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

2 years ago though the Big East had 1 power-ish team - Louisville. The rest consisted of tier 3 teams. It was nowhere near the conference it was in 2001 when Miami was dominant. The departures of Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Pitt, and West Virginia is what did that conference in. They were left with no strong TV Markets to continue to contend with the big boys.

If Texas and Oklahoma were to bolt for the cash, I think we can agree that the Big 12 would be like the Big East. So really it depends on what those two teams want to do. Texas is so self-dependent that they may just stay.

 

[SEREbuckeye]

There are 3 conferences that will 100% be around due to some combination of success, money, and location: B1G, SEC, and PAC 12. Purely from a location standpoint the ACC makes the most sense to dissolve into other conferences, but from a most likely to disappear standpoint the Big 12 seems to be closer. So I'm not sure how that would work. But I guess another option could be an NFL style bye system. The 5 champions plus one wildcard team (this would also allow the possibility of a Boise State if they have a tremendous year). Then the top 2 teams get a bye.

Edit: and if ND is still such a bitch they can at least get in as a bye if they are a top team once every decade or so.

Actually, the ACC is more profitable than that of the SEC.

According to Forbes, here is the shakedown for the Big 5 for 2014:

1. Big Ten: $318 M
2. ACC: $305 M (They raked in $35 MIllion more in TV Deals than the SEC)
3. Pac 12: $299 M
4. SEC: $271 M
5. Big 12: $262 M

Good luck trying to convince the 2nd most profitable conference to combine with another conference that came in fifth.

 

[jlb1705]

2 years ago though the Big East had 1 power-ish team - Louisville. The rest consisted of tier 3 teams. It was nowhere near the conference it was in 2001 when Miami was dominant. The departures of Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Pitt, and West Virginia is what did that conference in. They were left with no strong TV Markets to continue to contend with the big boys.

Exactly. If it happened once, it can happen again to get us down to four.

 

[SEREbuckeye]

Exactly. If it happened once, it can happen again to get us down to four.

It would take major moves for that to happen. The Big 5 have become too rich with talent. It would take something like Texas and OU to bolt to the SEC, or OSU and Michigan to go to the Big 12. Just moves that you know wont happen.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

Actually, the ACC is more profitable than that of the SEC.

According to Forbes, here is the shakedown for the Big 5 for 2014:

1. Big Ten: $318 M
2. ACC: $305 M (They raked in $35 MIllion more in TV Deals than the SEC)
3. Pac 12: $299 M
4. SEC: $271 M
5. Big 12: $262 M

Good luck trying to convince the 2nd most profitable conference to combine with another conference that came in fifth.

I agree. But I said that the 3 that won't go away is a combination of 3 factors, one being money. The other two being location and success. But regardless, I said right after that that most likely it would be the Big 12 if that were to happen. And it's reliant on Texas and Oklahoma wanting out. If they do, then the rest if the conference is a new Big East. Then the move to 4 conferences is all but certain.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

It would take major moves for that to happen. The Big 5 have become too rich with talent. It would take something like Texas and OU to bolt to the SEC, or OSU and Michigan to go to the Big 12. Just moves that you know wont happen.

The OSU UM going somewhere isn't going to happen. You could reference you $$$ breakout. But going back to your $$$ breakout, you absolutely could see UT and OK bolting. If they went to the B1G, SEC, or ACC, they'd make a boat load more. The one thing that would hold it back though is UT and their TV contract. Don't know how that would fly, but ESPN owns UT and the SEC, so maybe that would work.

 

[jlb1705]

It would take major moves for that to happen. The Big 5 have become too rich with talent. It would take something like Texas and OU to bolt to the SEC, or OSU and Michigan to go to the Big 12. Just moves that you know wont happen.

Texas joining another conference would bring down that entire house of cards. It's not that far-fetched, and may have been fairly close to happening in the last round of realignment. The landscape shifts every couple decades. I'll eat my hat if there are still five power conferences in 20-25 years.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

Actually, the ACC is more profitable than that of the SEC.

According to Forbes, here is the shakedown for the Big 5 for 2014:

1. Big Ten: $318 M
2. ACC: $305 M (They raked in $35 MIllion more in TV Deals than the SEC)
3. Pac 12: $299 M
4. SEC: $271 M
5. Big 12: $262 M

Good luck trying to convince the 2nd most profitable conference to combine with another conference that came in fifth.

you forget we're talking about Football.. the bulk of the ACC's deal is based on Basketball... I could see the ACC & BIG 12 getting folded together in football ... That could be the major shift is aligning conferences by sport instead of the entire AD....

 

[cincibuck]

As much as I like watching the NCAA basketball tournament, I hate what it does to the regular season. I sure hope college football isn't headed that way...

I don't think it's the NCAA that screws up the regular season. That's the province of the conference tournaments

 

[SEREbuckeye]

you forget we're talking about Football.. the bulk of the ACC's deal is based on Basketball... I could see the ACC & BIG 12 getting folded together in football ... That could be the major shift is aligning conferences by sport instead of the entire AD....

Actually the bulk of the ACC's money is from their TV deals ($240 million), followed by bowl money ($46.6 million), and lastly tournaments ($18 million).

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

Actually the bulk of the ACC's money is from their TV deals ($240 million), followed by bowl money ($46.6 million), and lastly tournaments ($18 million).

I understand their TV deal is the bulk... they are getting $240 Million mainly for rights to there basketball product not their football product... there football product would be below the BIG 12s on its own.