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2014 Bowl Games Open Thread

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RB07OSU said:
I was going to stay up and watch this regardless. One coat hanger later and I want to go to bed. But not as bad as I want Maryland out of our conference.
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Why we even wanted them is beyond me. Of course they wanted in our conference they have big time money issues. This is the best we could get? When I saw this matchup I was the most confident in this game being the worst ass beating of all our games as a conference and it did not disappoint.
 
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cincibuck said:
The idea is not to move a meaningless game from Memphis to Chicago, but to get a certain conference commish to stand up for his schools and insist that a National playoff be played at National sites. BTW, its not "meaningless" if TV is willing to make it worth the time and effort of the bowl committee and two schools such as LSU and ND are willing to make up the difference in cost just so they can say they played in a bowl game.
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Believe me, the Detroit pizza bowl is meaningless. The Idaho whogivesafuck bowl in Boise is meaningless.

And unless you think Delaney or any Big Ten commish wants to end up being on the outside looking in much like the Big East found itself over the past decade, you have to understand the politics, regional loyalties and the loyalties to the old bowls are always going to trump any want from the Big Ten for a "national" bowl system. It's just not going to happen in any of our lifetimes and I think it's super naive of anyone to think it goes deeper than money, sponsors and political ties to the bowls.

As I said, the only people clamoring for a bowl game in Shitcago or Indy or anywhere else in the midwest are people in the midwest. That's not going to move the needle for anyone who actually matters in the grand scheme of this playoff system. Hate to break it to ya.

BTW, LSU/Ntre Ame were both in a meaningless exhibition bowl tonight, as fun as it was to see the SECSECSEC go down.
 
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Mike80 said:
Believe me, the Detroit pizza bowl is meaningless. The Idaho whogivesafuck bowl in Boise is meaningless.

And unless you think Delaney or any Big Ten commish wants to end up being on the outside looking in much like the Big East found itself over the past decade, you have to understand the politics, regional loyalties and the loyalties to the old bowls are always going to trump any want from the Big Ten for a "national" bowl system. It's just not going to happen in any of our lifetimes and I think it's super naive of anyone to think it goes deeper than money, sponsors and political ties to the bowls.

As I said, the only people clamoring for a bowl game in [Mark May]cago or Indy or anywhere else in the midwest are people in the midwest. That's not going to move the needle for anyone who actually matters in the grand scheme of this playoff system. Hate to break it to ya.

BTW, LSU/Ntre Ame were both in a meaningless exhibition bowl tonight, as fun as it was to see the SECSECSEC go down.
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Methinks your definition of "meaningless game" is any game not involving Ohio State. Be that as it may, I offer you this: Shittybowl games are significant in that they generate product that TV can sell, they seem to satisfy something that teams in the 6 to 9 win range desire - i.e. TV time and the ability to say they went to a bowl game, they evidently create enough viewer interest to make it worthwhile to TV and advertisers - and they beat the hell out of the normal weekday TV shows. But its not the Franklin Mortgage or Idaho potato bowl I'm concerned with. They can come and go as they please. It's the idea that we are now creating a NATIONAL Playoff. As such I want to see Ohio State get as level a playing field as possible.

https://sites.google.com/site/sport...tistics/home-field-advantage-college-football
Home Field Advantage: College Football
Of the (approximately) last ten thousand games in Division I-A (FBS) college football, about 9000 which featured only D-I (FBS) schools with no lower conferences:

Percent Win Chance (Division-I FBS Only)

Home team won: 5,321 games (59.97%)
Away team won: 3,552 games (40.03%)
Home field advantage: 9.97% over a neutral site
Las Vegas bookies' home team win prediction: 5,644 games (63.61%)
Las Vegas bookies' away team win prediction: 3,229 games (36.39%)
Home field advantage: 13.61% over a neutral site
Given x number of points for the home team, away teams also earn x points an average of 7.55% less often.
Home field advantage: 7.55% over a neutral site

When you compare the history of Ohio State with that of USC these stats seem to come forward to me: Winning % OSU .720 USC .702, OSU 7 NCs, USC 10 NCs, Series record 9 -13 -1, out of 23 games 8 have been played in Columbus. So of two teams that appear to be relatively even and whose conferences appear to be relatively even, one goes from winning at a .720 pace to a .391 pace. Of the 7 NCs OSU claims, two 1942 and 1961, were won without playing a bowl game. 1 was won at a "neutral site." Of the ten NCs USC claims only one was won on a neutral site, the rest were all achieved in the friendly confines of Los Angeles. I can't look at those stats and not come to the conclusion that where those games were played is a significant part of the outcome.

Miami claims four NCs, of those three were won in the Orange Bowl. Two shots at the NC were lost when the team had to travel well out of Florida. Coincidence? I don't think so.

My point? History, holidays, booze and hookers may favor the current Playoff Sites, but that is no reason not to raise the issue. Football is an all weather sport and can be played in the mud, rain and heat of the sunbelt as well as the snow and sleet of the Northeastern quarter of this country. Ergo, if location is a factor - and I think I've demonstrated that in at least the case of Ohio State, USC and Miami there is much to suggest that it is - then location should be evenly distributed if we are to fairly determine a NATIONAL champion.
 
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