2012 TSUN shenanigans and arguments

[MONTbigBuck]

I'm a numbers kind of guy, and here are some numbers on Morris from last year. I have no idea about the competition except for what I read about on Cass Tech and St. Mary Prep.

Season totals: 121 of 235 for 1684 (.515) with 19 TDs and 7 ints.

vs. Cass Tech: 4 of 17 for 26 yards, 0-2

vs. St. Mary: 5-14 102, 0-0

in team's other loss, vs. Catholic Central, he was 14 of 26 for 121, 0-1.

first two games of the season vs. Pioneer, a 43-8 win, and Carman-Ainsworth, a 34-6 win (level of competition???) he was a combined 24 of 34, 390, 4-1. The rest of the year he was 97 of 201 (.483) for 1294, 15-6.

Like I said, I don't know anything about the level of completition, not to mention the offense his school runs. But these are the numbers.

Also, FWIW, rushing numbers: 74-150, 6 tds; also averaged almost 40 yards a punt.

I read some general discussion on Shane "the savior" Morris over on Mgoblog awhile back. It baffled me at the time how a kid with such minimal stats could be built up so much. One year starter that threw for 1600+ yards. His team lost to each of the three playoff teams they played, and he was supposedly mediocre in each case. The powers that be are in the process of bringing in a pair of stud recievers(2 brothers) for him for this coming season. His stats should be better. Morris' reputation has supposedly been made on the 7on 7 circuit. He reportedly has a big arm. The question will be can he do it with a D1 pass rush in his face. So far he hasn't done it even against mediocre competition. For whatever reasons there is definately an orchestrated effort behind this kid to promote him. Much more glitz than substance at this point. One thing that really could be a big concern to us buckeye fans is that if Morris puts as much work into his game as he puts into his twitter account he could turn out to be decent.

 

[WolverineMike]

I read some general discussion on Shane "the savior" Morris over on Mgoblog awhile back. It baffled me at the time how a kid with such minimal stats could be built up so much. One year starter that threw for 1600+ yards. His team lost to each of the three playoff teams they played, and he was supposedly mediocre in each case. The powers that be are in the process of bringing in a pair of stud recievers(2 brothers) for him for this coming season. His stats should be better. Morris' reputation has supposedly been made on the 7on 7 circuit. He reportedly has a big arm. The question will be can he do it with a D1 pass rush in his face. So far he hasn't done it even against mediocre competition. For whatever reasons there is definately an orchestrated effort behind this kid to promote him. Much more glitz than substance at this point. One thing that really could be a big concern to us buckeye fans is that if Morris puts as much work into his game as he puts into his twitter account he could turn out to be decent.

:rotf: That's the one thing I do know about him, is he tweets like crazy. Good call

 

[scarletmike]

Not enough shenanigans lately. And fuck scUM!

 

[buckeyebri]

So this Michael Scarn on MGO is talking about the comparisons between ScUM and tOSU majors. While he picks on tOSU majors, he also shows information for ScUM player majors. Here are the top 4 ScUM player majors by numbers.

Undeclared LS&A 24 General Studies 23 Kinesiology 20 Sociology 9

So this is 76 of their 85 scholly players and tOSU majors are ridiculous.......:crazy:

 

[brutus2002]

I don't really know much about Shane Morris. What makes him overrated?

Oh he has one heck of an arm. Shit he can throw the ball 60+ yards on his knees.

Too bad the football game is not a combine or who can throw the ball the furthest contest.

I like the fact he is not very athletic. With the studs Urban is recruiting on defense a kid like this will not be able to make plays on the run like Dennard. Hes 100% pocket QB.

QB's and OL are hard to recruit because you don't know how they will adjust to the higer level of competition.

I agree with Mili that Michigan is screwing up by putting all of their eggs in one basket. I remember Robby Schoenhoft having one hell of a cannon as well but never adjusted to the college level.

We shall see

 

[OH10]

There is something to be said for putting your eggs in one basket. Obviously Morris knows going in that he's the guy. He won't be looking over his shoulder, worrying about mistakes.

I just think he seems like the kind of guy that needs the offensive line they're recruiting for him because you blitz a quarterback like Shane Morris. You blitz the hell out of him, especially if Michigan can't get a speed guy for a downfield threat AND even more especially if you have lockdown corners like Burrows and Woodard.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Oh he has one heck of an arm. [Mark May] he can throw the ball 60+ yards on his knees.


Too bad the football game is not a combine or who can throw the ball the furthest contest.

I like the fact he is not very athletic. With the studs Urban is recruiting on defense a kid like this will not be able to make plays on the run like Dennard. Hes 100% pocket QB.

QB's and OL are hard to recruit because you don't know how they will adjust to the higer level of competition.

I agree with Mili that Michigan is screwing up by putting all of their eggs in one basket. I remember Robby Schoenhoft having one hell of a cannon as well but never adjusted to the college level.

We shall see

Sign Him Up!

 

[colobuck79]

Sign Him Up!

GO VERTICAL BABY!!!!

 

[OH10]

For clarification Shane Morris and his efforts vs. real competition:

Brogan Roback vs. Orchard Lake St. Marys: 15-20 for 278 yards and 4 touchdowns. His Toledo St. John's Jesuit team finished 7-3, but beat one of the best teams in the state of Michigan by 10 points.

Shane Morris vs. Orchard Lake St. Marys: 5-11 for 100 yards, no touchdowns. Team lost 35-10.

Now if you watch the film of these two quarterbacks, Morris has the superior mechanics and the stronger arm, by far. But he just doesn't show up against real competition.

If you look back on the film of Tim Tebow in high school, his mechanics weren't great either and they certainly haven't gotten much better. But he had a combined 52 touchdowns in high school. And we all know what he did in college.

EDIT: So in response to the question a couple of pages back, yeah, I think Shane Morris is overrated. I look forward to him following in the lines of several other overhyped high school quarterbacks like Kyle Wright, Brock Berlin, and Ben Olson.

 

[Oh8ch]

The arguments from OSU fans that Morris - a 5 star QB - is overrated seem pretty lame.

Until you look at his offer list, which is singularly unimpressive.

 

[OH10]

The arguments from OSU fans that Morris - a 5 star QB - is overrated seem pretty lame.

Until you look at his offer list, which is singularly unimpressive.

Could chalk that up to the early verbal commitment. I'm just looking at what he has actually done. Playing quarterback is about a lot more than having a strong arm. That's why it is such a difficult position to project.

 

[NFBuck]

Could chalk that up to the early verbal commitment. I'm just looking at what he has actually done. Playing quarterback is about a lot more than having a strong arm. That's why it is such a difficult position to project.

Could be. I think he's a kid who built a reputation at camps/workouts, got scouts drooling at his raw abilities, and got a 5* ranking. Other schools have probably seen his game film and haven't pursued. If you're good enough, offers will stream in...committed or not. I suspect unless he makes significant improvements in game performance, that ranking will drop a good bit this fall.

 

[y0yoyoin]

who cares...kid may be overrated but we will see when it matters in a few years...i still remember when everyone was saying Zwick was the second coming of christ and we all see how that turned out

 

[WolverineMike]

Oh he has one heck of an arm. [Mark May] he can throw the ball 60+ yards on his knees.

I'll bet he can throw the ball over those mountains, too.

 

[Bucknut24]

surfin youtube...found this vid

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA_zeMCnlWY&feature=plcp&context=C3a72c00UDOEgsToPDskII0NNXu3Qrf19avxp7UjhQ"]2007: Appalachian State v. Michigan (Drive-Thru) - YouTube[/ame]

it never gets old