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2012 TSUN shenanigans and arguments

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Zurp;2111266; said:
I guess I don't get it. Does Ohio State not have a good General Studies program, or something? Or is it SO GOOD that the football players don't have time to play football AND study for General Studies?
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The point is that General Studies is a Mickey Mouse major, and it's a good thing that Ohio State is not funneling its football players into one regardless of whether or not Ohio State has one or if it's compatible with the players' schedules.
 
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Zurp;2111266; said:
I guess I don't get it. Does Ohio State not have a good General Studies program, or something? Or is it SO GOOD that the football players don't have time to play football AND study for General Studies?
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There's a Personal Study Program. That's about as close as I can see. Can't find out if you can avoid 400+ level classes with it though.
 
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Coqui;2111434; said:
There's a Personal Study Program. That's about as close as I can see. Can't find out if you can avoid 400+ level classes with it though.
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That's pretty much the opposite of General Studies. It's for people who want to focus on a topic or integrate disciplines in a way that does not match up to a traditional major. To do something like this you have to know what you're going after and be able to articulate a reason for it. It's not just a grab bag like General Studies programs usually are.

As for upper division courses (300, 400, 500-level, etc.), it's highly unlikely that those are being avoided altogether by anybody, here or there. Pretty much any university is going to have a graduation requirement of a certain number or upper division hours, regardless of major.

The accusation that was made of M*ch*g*n earlier in the thread was not that their student-athletes were avoiding upper division courses entirely, but that they were being moved out of kiniesiology before the advanced courses for that particular program were being taken - they were likely taking 300+ level classes in some other discipline where the topics are things like "History of Pop Culture" rather than "Biomechanics" or "Exercise Prescription".

Any university that graduates football players without having them take enough upper-level classes would have much more than just a perception problem. It would devalue everyone's degrees and likely prompt a thorough cavity check of the institution by their accrediting body. That's way out there, and I don't think that's going on at a stellar academic institution like M*ch*g*n.
 
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I had some time to kill (and some good stoner rock coming through the headphones) so I looked at UM's player profiles on MGOBLUE.COM and compiled the following stats. Majors being pursued by one or two on the roster are bulked in the "Other" category. Undeclared includes 22 freshmen and 17 Redshirt Freshmen/Sophomores. Sport management and Movement Science are majors within the School of Kinesiology.


Undeclared 39
General Studies 25
Sport Management 10
Sociology 9
Movement Science 4
Afro-American and African studies 4
Political science 3
Other 15
Total 109
 
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Bucky32;2110365; said:
Does Michigan really not offer any undergraduate business majors? I know their graduate school is one of the best in the country.
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So is their undergraduate program. UM Ross Business School is ranked #6 in the 2011 Business Week rankings and was ranked #8 and #4 in the previous two rankings. Ohio State is ranked #53 and was ranked #59 and has dropped to #42.

The poor performance of Fisher College of Business is an accurate reflection of how people perceive what was once a top 10 business school. It is very disappointing.
 
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Steve19;2111504; said:
So is their undergraduate program. UM Ross Business School is ranked #6 in the 2011 Business Week rankings and was ranked #8 and #4 in the previous two rankings. Ohio State is ranked #53 and was ranked #59 and has dropped to #42.

The poor performance of Fisher College of Business is an accurate reflection of how people perceive what was once a top 10 business school. It is very disappointing.
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Wow! WTF happened?
 
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osubartender23;2112492; said:
Exactly how many of those Ohio commits did OSU offer? ZERO.
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Thomas?


Let's all cut the crap. What UM has done is very impressive. There are at least two of the recent kids who have OSU offers (per Scout) and two more with offers from Alabama.

I wouldn't accuse Hoke of settling at this point.
 
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Oh8ch;2112499; said:
Thomas?
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Dymonte didn't have an offer from Ohio State when he committed to UM. Meyer is trying to rectify that situation that the previous staff botched badly. I don't think that one sticks.

Otherwise, it can't be denied that the run Hoke and company are currently on is quite impressive.

It makes me curious what the "pitch" is that has been so effective. Regardless, it certainly seems like the rivalry is about to be taken up a few notches.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104248/its-on
 
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