2012 TSUN football news

[jwinslow]

Apparently Hoke said that no decision has been made but he has a good idea what it will be

it's not like Alabama will radically change their D prep, especially since Denard is a pretty inflexible QB when it comes to offensive schemes.

I think the writing is on the wall here.

Fitz I could see but Clark is not complicated.

 

[Tlangs]

If we learned anything from all of this it is not to schedule a big time opponent for the first game of the season. It is a long offseson and a lot can go wrong. Schedule the big time opponent for game 3 or 4 so you can dole out 2-3 game suspensions and not affect your season.

 

[MaxBuck]

I hate the fucking Weasels, but it's really no business of opposing fan bases (or anyone else) what punishments, if any, coaches dole out for off-the-field infractions. Personally, so long as the coaches don't try to interfere with the criminal justice system, I don't care if they bypass team-related punishment altogether.

 

[cjmik_75]

Good call, fat ass.

 

[jwinslow]

I hate the fucking Weasels, but it's really no business of opposing fan bases (or anyone else) what punishments, if any, coaches dole out for off-the-field infractions. Personally, so long as the coaches don't try to interfere with the criminal justice system, I don't care if they bypass team-related punishment altogether.

a rival coach potentially overlooking crimes to benefit his football team is not grounds for criticism, but a fellow Buckeye sharing an opinion always is.

If Brady Hoke were BKB and thus all of us, your computer might explode.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I hate the fucking Weasels, but it's really no business of opposing fan bases (or anyone else) what punishments, if any, coaches dole out for off-the-field infractions. Personally, so long as the coaches don't try to interfere with the criminal justice system, I don't care if they bypass team-related punishment altogether.

Max, I almost always appreciate the devil's advocate opposing viewpoint, but you really jumped the shark on this one.

 

[OH10]

I think we can all agree that if Fitz had traded his Sugar Bowl ring for a butterfly tramp stamp, he'd have been given a 4-game suspension.

But commit a DUI, where someone could actually have been seriously hurt, no-game suspension.

Priorities in college football. Gotta love 'em.

 

[NFBuck]

I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you, that the fat, perpetually out of breath ogre is letting him play. SHOCKED.

 

[zincfinger]

I hate the fucking Weasels, but it's really no business of opposing fan bases (or anyone else) what punishments, if any, coaches dole out for off-the-field infractions. Personally, so long as the coaches don't try to interfere with the criminal justice system, I don't care if they bypass team-related punishment altogether.

Similarly, if Penn State had allowed Joe Paterno to keep coaching after discovering that he'd turned a blind eye to child rape, that decision would be immune to criticism. Because it's purely an internal affair. Right?

 

[MaxBuck]

a rival coach potentially overlooking crimes to benefit his football team is not grounds for criticism, but a fellow Buckeye sharing an opinion always is.

Well, it evidently is for you ... sauce, goose, gander, etc. Not that I'd accuse you of hypocrisy, Josh.

(BTW, the ellipsis store is back in business ... but prices are high.)

 

[MaxBuck]

Similarly, if Penn State had allowed Joe Paterno to keep coaching after discovering that he'd turned a blind eye to child rape, that decision would be immune to criticism. Because it's purely an internal affair. Right?

Yeah, that sounds exactly like what I said.

:atom:

 

[zincfinger]

Yeah, that sounds exactly like what I said.

:atom:

It seems to me to be pretty much the same in principle. Feel free to point out my error, preferably sans emoticon.

 

[MaxBuck]

It seems to me to be pretty much the same in principle. Feel free to point out my error, preferably sans emoticon.

Paterno committed a heinous felony (suborning/conspiracy to commit child rape), and the criminal justice system would have dealt with him accordingly had he lived. The university could hardly have such a felon leading its major sports program. Drawing an analogy between this and team-related punishment of a player who may have committed a crime is absurd.

Whatever Toussaint is found guilty of, the justice system will deal with accordingly, and if he's incarcerated he obviously won't be available for PT.

 

[NFBuck]

Color me shocked that it's MaxBuck taking this stance.

 

[zincfinger]

Paterno committed a heinous felony (suborning/conspiracy to commit child rape), and the criminal justice system would have dealt with him accordingly had he lived. The university could hardly have such a felon leading its major sports program. Drawing an analogy between this and team-related punishment of a player who may have committed a crime is absurd.

Whatever Toussaint is found guilty of, the justice system will deal with accordingly, and if he's incarcerated he obviously won't be available for PT.

Paterno was never charged with any felony, nor is it clear that he would have been had he lived. Your extra-judicial opinion on the matter flies in the face of your alternate opinion that off-field matters should be left to the criminal justice system alone, and that it is untoward for anyone else to express an opinion on such matters. From the standpoint of that opinion of yours, what's the difference between the two situations. Heinousness? It's everyone's business if it's heinous, but nobody's business if it's non-heinous?

On a related note, given that Graham Spanier hasn't been charged with any crime, I assume you feel that whether he kept his job or not was nobody's business, and that public comment on his status would be inappropriate.