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2012 Elite Eight: #2 tOSU 77, #1 Syracuse 70 (Final!)

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BuckeyeNation27;2132697; said:
It wasn't really inadvertant. Triche travelled twice in the same possession. He even stopped because he knew he did, then the whistle, then.......nothing.

Syracuse didn't get screwed by the refs, they just got impacted more by the foul calls. The reason is because Ohio State was penetrating and drawing more bull[Mark May] foul calls than Syracuse was. Simple as that. Any fan who is crying that one team got screwed by the refs is just being a homer. Maybe if it wasn't Ohio State that Syracuse was playing, I'd be right there with them.

The refs "robbed" Syracuse of a win only in that their [Mark May]ty calls impacted the game so much and so evenly that you wish it could be played again with real refs. Had Syracuse won, the same exact thing could be said about Ohio State. I've never seen anything like it.
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OSU was the more physical team. They played lights out D when Sully was on the bench. Syracuse had a huge advantage, but still couldn't capitalize. Once Jared got back into the game, Syracuse couldn't stop him, Smith was on fire, Craft and Buford shut down Jardine and Joseph, and they kept attacking the soft spot in the zone. They were also fighting a crowd in favor of the oranges and still won the game. Simply put OSU was the better, tougher team.
 
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Bill Lucas;2132722; said:
I didn't see our players bitching about any of the calls.
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I'm honestly amazed he didn't get T'ed up. I'm guessing the ref here was too preoccupied with complexities of counting to 10 and simply didn't hear him.

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BuckeyeNation27;2132697; said:
It wasn't really inadvertant. Triche travelled twice in the same possession. He even stopped because he knew he did, then the whistle, then.......nothing.
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Yep, I think it was Buford guarding him, and Buford was also signaling for the travel as he was defending at the top of the key, which made it even more sad.

I mostly agree with your overall assessment of the refs being terrible all around. From the perspective of a Syracuse fan, did you not think that more fouls were called against Ohio State when there was no physical contact whatsoever between the two players? It seemed to me that the Buckeyes were getting called for more fouls (in significant junctures) where there was absolutely no contact, when the Bucks were conceding lay-ups so that they wouldn't be called for fouls.
 
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JohnnyCockfight;2132794; said:
Yep, I think it was Buford guarding him, and Buford was also signaling for the travel as he was defending at the top of the key, which made it even more sad.

I mostly agree with your overall assessment of the refs being terrible all around. From the perspective of a Syracuse fan, did you not think that more fouls were called against Ohio State when there was no physical contact whatsoever between the two players? It seemed to me that the Buckeyes were getting called for more fouls (in significant junctures) where there was absolutely no contact, when the Bucks were conceding lay-ups so that they wouldn't be called for fouls.
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I thinks the Bucks started conceding layups after Syracuse missed the sixth or seventh layup. lol
 
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JohnnyCockfight said:
Yep, I think it was Buford guarding him, and Buford was also signaling for the travel as he was defending at the top of the key, which made it even more sad.

I mostly agree with your overall assessment of the refs being terrible all around. From the perspective of a Syracuse fan, did you not think that more fouls were called against Ohio State when there was no physical contact whatsoever between the two players? It seemed to me that the Buckeyes were getting called for more fouls (in significant junctures) where there was absolutely no contact, when the Bucks were conceding lay-ups so that they wouldn't be called for fouls.
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There was a stretch where Ohio State got called for fouls that just didn't happen....starting with Sully's second. Waiter's missed dunk was in there.....and I think there was one more.
 
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Ravenel's 2nd where he never moved and the guy plowed into him or his own man was in there as well. There was also a stretch near the end of the game that it seemed like if you went for a layup and missed it was an autofoul both ways. Irregardless if the guy was touched or not.
 
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GeorgiaBuck2;2132791; said:
BTW, the second foul called on him was fucking bullshit...
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I've seen this stated often. Sully put his hand on the guy's hip as he glided by in the air. How much of a push he gave him is very hard to tell. It's a situation where refs sometimes wait to see if the shot was made, and then call a foul only if the shot was missed. In this case, the guy obviously blew the whistle right away.

But it wasn't a phantom call like the one where Waiters hit the front of the rim on a dunk after going down the middle of the lane untouched.
 
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BB73;2132839; said:
I've seen this stated often. Sully put his hand on the guy's hip as he glided by in the air. How much of a push he gave him is very hard to tell. It's a situation where refs sometimes wait to see if the shot was made, and then call a foul only if the shot was missed. In this case, the guy obviously blew the whistle right away.

But it wasn't a phantom call like the one where Waiters hit the front of the rim on a dunk after going down the middle of the lane untouched.
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Meh, but the point is that 'putting your hand on a guy's hip' is just not a foul. And if it is, then what kind of pansy ass sport are we all watching?

Personally, I would love basketball 300% more if fouls were almost entirely eliminated. Give the guys pads and a mouthpiece and penalize only flagrant/blatant/intentional contact. Oh wait, I just remembered why I prefer football. Carry on.:banger:
 
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