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2011 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

It's all JoePas fault...

Lemming blog

How recruiting has changed
By Second Seasonon March 10, 2010 9:46 AM

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But the sense of urgency began in 1992 when Penn State coach Joe Paterno decided to offer dozens of players early after losing all of the top prospects in Pennsylvania the year before. He was successful and forced other schools to follow his lead. In one dramatic season, the recruiting process was blown into what it is today.

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Ask Jamie: Should Tide broaden recruiting base?
Jamie Newberg, ‎March 11, 2010

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Big Ten bounce back
After a poor recruiting year in the Big Ten, do you think any of the teams will bounce back in recruiting this year?

- Will from Columbus, Ohio


Absolutely. Certainly you will see teams in this league recruit better in 2011. I mean how often do we see Ohio State outside the top 25? The Buckeyes finished at No. 26 - third in the Big Ten - behind Penn State (12) and Michigan (20). Add Michigan State (30) and Iowa (42) and that gives the Big Ten only five teams in the top 50 nationally.

Teams in the Big Ten have to recruit better in 2011, and I am sure they will. But it has to be a group effort. Teams like Minnesota and Illinois have to recruit to their ability. Ohio State will close better next February than it did this past February. And Michigan, Penn State and Michigan State will all have a chance to do very well.

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At this point in the recruiting season, I'm surprised we have not heard more about Eilar Hardy, Donovan Clark, AJ Jordan, and Brad Carrico. I love the skills of Hardy and I am shocked that he does not have an offer. I thought Donovan Clark would get more of a look on the OL or DL. I have heard there are some concerns about AJ Jordan's small hands, but his film is great. I really think Brad Carrico would be an outstanding OT down the road. I'd like to hear some players you are surprised that have not been talked about?
 
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Maybe 'bad' as compared to numbers of 5*'s, or 'star-power' type players, but looking at the recruiting by class, it appears that Tress & Co filled in some of the 'holes' of the position/classes. Maybe could have used more OL and DL's, but there's enough in the pipeline to fill in the gaps. Don't think that the elite DI teams recruit kids that cannot play, or have the potential to play (one never knows), so there are 85 kids that can/should contribute. I'd bet a vcash buck that the recruiting team (OSU's) kinda has a feel for which guys will 'eat' their way from defensive end to defensive tackle, or LB to lineman.

When a 'great one' such as Seantrel comes along, you gobble them up, especially if they are at a position of need. Even if they represent an upgrade in what is already on the two-deep 'board', but no real need.

It's always been said that the ONLY way to assess the class is to see who contributes within three-four years to playing time. I believe that to be true, but at the outset of a recruiting class, we did have a 'bad' year, by the very 4-5* pieces of meat that OSU lost. Someone did a very good study showing how a class was 're-rated' after 4 years, and it appeared that most if not all of OSU classes were re-rated upwards. I may be delusional, but thought that most SEC classes were re-rated downwards.

If the system is working (and OSU's is working folks), then you can plug in the players as juniors that have gained experience, weight, strength, and savvy and not miss many beats. Finally, this is where good coaching comes in, training up those 2-3*'s into world beaters, like Tress & Co do.

:gobucks3::gobucks4::banger: I'll take where OSU is right now over some of the other schools in a heartbeat. Go Bucks
 
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IMO this class wasn't "bad". It could of been alot better but we missed on some guys at the end. I think it there was just some bad luck in there to. I mean we had Shaw and Floyd pretty much done, and some things went on that changed they're minds.

IMO the upside for this class is great. We have some guys that were underrated, and some guys with really high ceillings. I LOVE the versatility of this class. Plus you can't help but like adding fast guys like Brown, Louis, Hagan, and Roby. And the defense only gets faster with every class...
 
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With Bobek, Carter, and Underwood already in the fold I assume Farris and Bennett will be looked at as DL first. Then given a second go at OL, if D doesn't work out. Especially if Walker earns his offer and commits. That will be a total of 8 lineman 4 on O and 2 DT and 2 DE. Sounds like a great base of a class to fill a need.
 
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krazeyk;1675449; said:
With Bobek, Carter, and Underwood already in the fold I assume Farris and Bennett will be looked at as DL first. Then given a second go at OL, if D doesn't work out. Especially if Walker earns his offer and commits. That will be a total of 8 lineman 4 on O and 2 DT and 2 DE. Sounds like a great base of a class to fill a need.

That would be a heck of a haul and, at this point, looks very possible to be the way this is gonna shape out...

Even if Walker doesn't come here, I wouldn't be surprised if we use a little "shotgun" technique to spray some offers out to some great-to-elite level OT's, take the first that commits, and call it a class on the O-Line.

How sick of a D-Line class would S.Miller/Farris/Bennett/Hayes be?
 
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BuckTwenty;1675460; said:
That would be a heck of a haul and, at this point, looks very possible to be the way this is gonna shape out...

Even if Walker doesn't come here, I wouldn't be surprised if we use a little "shotgun" technique to spray some offers out to some great-to-elite level OT's, take the first that commits, and call it a class on the O-Line.

How sick of a D-Line class would S.Miller/Farris/Bennett/Hayes be?

:biggrin:

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Anyone have an idea of how many slots the coaching staff is looking to make available for the 2011 class? I ask because obviously its different every year but it seemed like with 18 this past class it was on the small side... FL had 28 but probably had a lot to fill to get 85. 22-25 seem reasonable?
 
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