OMGbro;1786355; said:
Odoms, Teric, and Dileo all 3*'s. Smith is a RB, not a slot, and he was a 3* as well. Kelvin wasn't even rated as a football prospect in high school, he was a basketball one. BTW, Odoms doesn't even play in the slot, he plays on the outside primarily, just like he did in his entire illustrious HS career at Pahokee.
Odoms plays outside now. He started as a slot. Missed the 4* part of that, carry on.
Not really buying that argument. First of all, Florida has a big edge over every school in the nation save maybe Texas and USC in that they don't even have to leave their backyard to get the top ranked players in the country in any given year.
Secondly, Urban's first year at Florida he went 9-3 and finished 2nd in the SEC East. Not 3-9 and dead last in the conference. Pretty big difference right there. Urban's second year at Florida he won the National Title, he didn't go 5-7 and he wasn't rumored to be fired and he didn't have to deal with practice-gate.
1) The 09 class largely predated the downfall of the 08 season.
2) I agree it's much easier to recruit at Florida and in that situation. It's also easier when you don't ask Chris Leak to run the option all year long.
3) There are excuses for not having superior talent (like the excuses for the defense to fail to be good/great, but not to be this horrible). There are not excuses for settling for MAC & Big East battles for a lot of recruits, particularly in the 2010 class. UM has far too much cache to require that many fallback prospects.
You think Florida would give up Brantley for Robinson?
They had that option and passed. Did they make a mistake? Sure, but they didn't target him.
Absolutely not. Terrible fit.
Devin? I do. Florida tried like hell to get Devin at the last minute.
Hell is a bit strong. They went after him late, which begs the question why it took that long. He was a high profile kid for years, yet they didn't really come calling until November.
I don't think the scheme hampers WR recruiting much, if at all. It hampers QB recruiting simply because of the fact that it takes a very specific skill set to run the style of offense.
The 08 & 09 offense hampers recruiting a ton. Good luck having Stonum host an official visit the last few years
The more diverse passing game (which is as much playcalling as QB) is a different story.
RB/WR talk- that's certainly debatable. I don't think it has affected Michigan's recruitment of WR's as much as you think it has.
I don't see anywhere near the pedigree of WRs that UM churned out under Carr. They are working on getting one poor man's breaston right now, nothing close to the Braylon, Bass, Avant, Breaston, Manningham, Arrington factory they had before when they knew pro style QBs & offenses were getting them the ball.
I also don't think a coach's son, a michigan legacy & two ohio sleepers are a great time to evaluate the system, nor having a sleeper in 2011. What they do in 2012 will be interesting, especially with the hype around Denard. THat will tell us more about the position recruiting moving forward. I don't see it being that hard, but I am going to be waiting to see if it returns to what Carr did.
We seem to be doing just fine in the WR recruiting department, and right now our #2 and #3 leading receivers in terms of yardage are a split end and a flanker in Stonum/Hemingway and the play-calling seems just fine to me as well. They seem to be letting Denard throw down the field more and more and his accuracy has improved greatly compared to where it was last year.
That was my point. The 08 & 09 playcalling really held things back, and it wasn't just the limitations at QB, it was who the passes were drawn up for before the game. There were a lot of games where Stonum was not even an option on 60-70% of passing downs, half of them rollouts away from him.
