2010 SEC and Big Ten OOC football schedules

[Steve19]

SEC fans typically get riled up when fans of teams from opposing conferences point to their weak OOC schedule and fear of travelling.

This year, the SEC once again strikes out with yet another challenging OOC schedule. OK, I jest, but they do add a few Big Ten teams this year at home to spruce up their OOC schedules.

Travelling away from home

Here is the entire 2010 SEC OOC schedule list of games played away from home (count'em folks):

Week 1: Kentucky at Louisville, LSU at North Carolina
Week 2: Miss at Tulane
Week 3: Alabama at Duke
Week 4: Miss St at Houston
Other weeks: Arkansas at Texas A&M, South Carolina at Clemson, Vanderbilt at UConn, Vanderbilt at Eastern Michigan

That trip in Week 1 is guaranteed to put Kentucky under real pressure.

OOC at home

Give credit where its due, Alabama plays Penn State at home this year and away next year. Otherwise, unless open slots get filled with return games, these tougher opponents won't be seeing their team travel north.

Alabama: San Jose State, Penn State, Georgia State
Auburn: Arkansas State, Clemson, Lousiana Monroe, Chattanooga
Arkansas: Tenness Tech, Louisiana Monroe, UTEP
Florida: Miami (Ohio), South Florida, Appalach. State
Georgia: Louisiana Lafayette, Colorado, Idaho State, Georgia Tech
Kentucky: Western Kentucky, Akron
LSU: W Va, McNeese State, Louisiana Monroe
Miss State: Memphis, Alcorn St, UAB
Miss: Jacksonville State, Fresno State, Louisiana Lafayette
SC: Furman, Troy
Tennessee: UT-Martin, Oregon, UAB
Vanderbilt: Northwestern, Wake Forest

Big Ten (by comparison)

IllinoisMissouri S.Illinois N.Illinois @FresnoSt
IndianaTowson C.Michigan
Iowa E.Illinois Iowa St @Arizona BallSt
Michigan UConn @NDame UMass BGreen
MichState WMich @FlaAtl NDame NColo
Minnesota MidTenn SDakota USC NIllinois
Northwestern @Vandy IllinoisSt @Rice CMich
OhioStateMarshallMiamiFlaOhio EMich
PennState YoungSt @Alabama KentSt Temple
Purdue @NDame WIllinois BallSt Toledo
Wisconsin @UNLV SanJoseSt ArizSt AustinP


Big Ten teams travel further and seem to play better opponents but they also have their scrimmage games on the OOC. The Buckeyes don't leave Columbus this year during OOC schedule. Discuss.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Miss State: Memphis, Alcom (who dat?), UAB

That's Alcorn St. I guess "rn" can look like an "m" to some of us old folk. :tongue2:

 

[buckeyemania11]

Alabama: San Jose State, Penn State, Georgia State

2010 is the inaugural season for Georgia State football.....and you schedule them? good riddance

 

[buckeyesin07]

Alabama: San Jose State, Penn State, Georgia State
Auburn: Arkansas State, Miss State, Clemson, Lousiana Monroe, Chattanooga
Arkansas: Tenness Tech, Louisiana Monroe, UTEP
Florida: Miami (Ohio), South Florida, Appalach. State
Georgia: Louisiana Lafayette, Colorado, Idaho State, Georgia Tech
Kentucky: Western Kentucky, Akron
LSU: W Va, McNeese State, Louisiana Monroe
Miss State: Memphis, Alcorn St, UAB
Miss: Jacksonville State, Fresno State, Louisiana Lafayette
SC: Furman, Troy
Tennessee: UT-Martin, Oregon, UAB
Vanderbilt: Northwestern, Wake Forest

Give Alabama (for PSU), Auburn (for Clemson) and Georgia (for Ga Tech) credit. The rest of the teams should be ashamed.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

That's Alcorn St. I guess "rn" can look like an "m" to some of us old folk. :tongue2:

And vice versa in regards to Barn Childress.

 

[Muck]

Give Alabama (for PSU), Auburn (for Clemson) and Georgia (for Ga Tech) credit. The rest of the teams should be ashamed.

Tennesee plays Oregon.
Northwestern & Wake Forest are definite challenges for Vandy.
While Colorado is nowhere near the team they used to be Georgia should get some credit for scheduling them....Idaho State & Louisiana Lafeyette?! Come on now, you have got to be kidding me.

 

[Gatorubet]

If the SEC wins its 5th BCSNC in a row, I'll care as much as I did when our OOC schedule was an issue before the SEC's 4th BCSNC in row...which is little or not at all.

I'll gladly cede OOC schedule supremacy to the Big-10 in return for higher national ranking and BCS win supremacy for the SEC. Yeah, that's not everything, but it will do nicely.

I expect a lot of "yeah but" responses, but no matter what they are, what we have seems to be working. If denigrating our success for whatever reason is what floats your boat, I'd still rather have our success and listen to detractors than not have the success. When we get blown out of a BCSNC game after a creampuff OOC schedule, then the charge would have more legs. But as the lack of traveling has not seemed to hurt the final on the field product, it feels more like sour grapes than a legitimate gripe. I mean, far be it from me to stop the "let them play us in -20 degree weather in January" talk, but as the rules we play under now are the rules, it hardly seems to be our fault for following them and staying within said rules to achieve an objective that is open to all of us.

The Bucks had no problem with the Ducks, and so we did not hear about the long delay from The Game until the Rose Bowl. Winning is the best medicine for all such ills, and winning negates most of the pet theories of why a team was not sharp in any particular contest. The Buckeys were awesome in 2009. Hence the silence on all things negative. The only sound I expect to hear in 2010 of a negative nature about the Bucks, when you win the Big-10 yet again, will be crickets chirping. If the SEC wins it again in January 2011, I will hear crickets, not how our OOC schedule is a problem. It will not be on anyone's minds. Well, here maybe. But it will seem increasingly unimportant if we keep winning BCS games at our current pace.

 

[SSS]

Figured this was relevant here. I'll update it for 09 later tonight.

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...cs-facts-your-sec-friends-51.html#post1492063

Thought I'd archive this here. It originated in a SEC-b10 slapfight that broke out in the UGA-Mich thread on GBW.

Much has been made of the B10 traveling out of their region for bowl games, or how some SEC teams don't do so (or haven't in the past, like UGA before 08). I decided to take a look back at how the SEC has fared when they chose to leave the south. For the most part, I used this decade, except for Florida who didn't bother to leave the south this decade.

Alabama
1. LOST in 2002 to Oklahoma. Bama won 10 of its other 12 games.

Arkansas
2. LOST in 2008 to Texas.
3. LOST in 2005 to USC.
4. WON in 2003 vs Texas.

Auburn
5. LOST in 2008 to WVU.
6. LOST in 2002 to USC.

Florida goes decades without leaving the south (sometimes including bowls).
7. LOST in 1991 to SYR. Won every single other regular season game.
8. TIED in 1983 vs USC. UF won 9 other games, USC only won 4.

Georgia
9. WON in 2008 vs ASU. Only made the list because they don't play OOR games.
... I went back to the 70s and didn't find any out of region games.

LSU
10. WON in 2005 vs ASU in a close one.
11. WON in 2003 vs AZ. A very bad AZ.
12. LOST in 2002 vs VT.

Tenn
13. LOST in 2008 vs UCLA, who was even worse than them.
14. LOST in 2007 vs Cal, got blown out. The year before, back in SEC country, they blew out Cal.
15. LOST in 2005 vs ND.
16. WON in 2001 vs ND.

SEC scheduled games out of the south: 5-10-1

I'm not very interested in looking up statistics for the also rans like Miss, Miss St, SCar, Vandy & Kentucky.

 

[SSS]

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I'll compile the same list for the b10 over the last decade. I have a sneaking suspicion that psu will be embarrassing.

 

[BUCKYLE]

If the SEC wins its 5th BCSNC in a row, I'll care as much as I did when our OOC schedule was an issue before the SEC's 4th BCSNC in row...which is little or not at all.

I'll gladly cede OOC schedule supremacy to the Big-10 in return for higher national ranking and BCS win supremacy for the SEC. Yeah, that's not everything, but it will do nicely.

I expect a lot of "yeah but" responses, but no matter what they are, what we have seems to be working. If denigrating our success for whatever reason is what floats your boat, I'd still rather have our success and listen to detractors than not have the success. When we get blown out of a BCSNC game after a creampuff OOC schedule, then the charge would have more legs. But as the lack of traveling has not seemed to hurt the final on the field product, it feels more like sour grapes than a legitimate gripe. I mean, far be it from me to stop the "let them play us in -20 degree weather in January" talk, but as the rules we play under now are the rules, it hardly seems to be our fault for following them and staying within said rules to achieve an objective that is open to all of us.

The Bucks had no problem with the Ducks, and so we did not hear about the long delay from The Game until the Rose Bowl. Winning is the best medicine for all such ills, and winning negates most of the pet theories of why a team was not sharp in any particular contest. The Buckeys were awesome in 2009. Hence the silence on all things negative. The only sound I expect to hear in 2010 of a negative nature about the Bucks, when you win the Big-10 yet again, will be crickets chirping. If the SEC wins it again in January 2011, I will hear crickets, not how our OOC schedule is a problem. It will not be on anyone's minds. Well, here maybe. But it will seem increasingly unimportant if we keep winning BCS games at our current pace.

If you're so fucking good, then as a fan of Florida football...why don't you want to see better games?

 

[Muck]

When we get blown out of a BCSNC game after a creampuff OOC schedule, then the charge would have more legs.

The point is that those creampuff OOC schedules are a large part of why SEC teams get into said game.

Play a team or two that isn't a complete joke once in awhile and you won't be seeing SEC teams making it into the BCS championship game by default every year.

If KY got a bye in the first four rounds of the NCAA tournament each year just think how many more national titles they'd have.

 

[Gatorubet]

Figured this was relevant here. I'll update it for 09 later tonight.

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...cs-facts-your-sec-friends-51.html#post1492063

Thought I'd archive this here. It originated in a SEC-b10 slapfight that broke out in the UGA-Mich thread on GBW.

Much has been made of the B10 traveling out of their region for bowl games, or how some SEC teams don't do so (or haven't in the past, like UGA before 08). I decided to take a look back at how the SEC has fared when they chose to leave the south. For the most part, I used this decade, except for Florida who didn't bother to leave the south this decade.

Alabama
1. LOST in 2002 to Oklahoma. Bama won 10 of its other 12 games.

Arkansas
2. LOST in 2008 to Texas.
3. LOST in 2005 to USC.
4. WON in 2003 vs Texas.

Auburn
5. LOST in 2008 to WVU.
6. LOST in 2002 to USC.

Florida goes decades without leaving the south (sometimes including bowls).
7. LOST in 1991 to SYR. Won every single other regular season game.
8. TIED in 1983 vs USC. UF won 9 other games, USC only won 4.

Georgia
9. WON in 2008 vs ASU. Only made the list because they don't play OOR games.
... I went back to the 70s and didn't find any out of region games.

LSU
10. WON in 2005 vs ASU in a close one.
11. WON in 2003 vs AZ. A very bad AZ.
12. LOST in 2002 vs VT.

Tenn
13. LOST in 2008 vs UCLA, who was even worse than them.
14. LOST in 2007 vs Cal, got blown out. The year before, back in SEC country, they blew out Cal.
15. LOST in 2005 vs ND.
16. WON in 2001 vs ND.

SEC scheduled games out of the south: 5-10-1

I'm not very interested in looking up statistics for the also rans like Miss, Miss St, SCar, Vandy & Kentucky.

My choice would not have been to trumpet Syracuse's success over tOSU in a similar situtation, but OK. Almost every damn OOC game we played against the Noles in their glory years were against a higher ranked team than most OOC games by Big-10 teams those years. You'll have to explain why playing some unranked OOC BCS conference team out of the south is supposed to be a more worthy task than playing the number one or two ranked Noles (with all of those NFL players during those glory years) in the south. But that is your premise. So enjoy. Pardon me if that stat does not move me.

The crystal trophies look just as shiny even with a '91 loss to Syracuse.

 

[SSS]

I'll gladly cede OOC schedule supremacy to the Big-10 in return for higher national ranking and BCS win supremacy for the SEC. Yeah, that's not everything, but it will do nicely.

of course. Everyone would prefer to slack off and take the easy route if no one notices.

That's not a persuasive argument.

Fsu beat up on a bad conference, but back then everything wasn't about how everything but number 1 sucks.

 

[IronBuckI]

Both conferences should be ashamed of themselves. Let's offer our fans garbage OOC matchups so they can argue which ones are less garbage.

 

[Gatorubet]

The point is that those creampuff OOC schedules are a large part of why SEC teams get into said game.

Play a team or two that isn't a complete joke once in awhile and you won't be seeing SEC teams making it into the BCS championship game by default every year.

If KY got a bye in the first four rounds of the NCAA tournament each year just think how many more national titles they'd have.

I see your point. It is the same point we made about the ACC. However, look at the ACC BCS records versus ours. If we both have cream puff schedules ducking good OOC teams, our BCS records should be similar. But they are not. Take an ACC team into the BCSNC game and they will get drilled. Hell, take them to almost any BCS game and they will get drilled. That is a hard stat. Hard stat says the SEC wins a hell of a lot of our BCS games. Why the difference? If your theory was solid, the similar OOC creampuff schedules should produce a similar BCS record for both conferences.