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Nutriaitch
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BB73;1657388; said:
Steve19;1657413; said:
c'mon, I know y'all just lumped Miss St. in with the other Sun Belt teams (hell thats about how most SEC schools feel about them anyway).
as far as LSU's OOC is concerned, since '98 we've been to (not gonna count NOLA for Toolame games, because we outnumber them elitist pricks in their own building):
Notre Dame
Va Tech
Arizona St (originally scheduled as a home game)
Arizona
Washington
and upcoming:
Atlanta to play UNC
W. Virginia
Colorado is (allegedly) in the plans
and another trip to Arizona St. (was originally scheduled as home and home, but Katrina fucked that up. Future home and home is supposed to be re-scheduled).
From '86-'95 we had an annual rivalry with Texas A&M, playing in their yard every other year.
this may not be in the upper tier of OOC scheduling, but it's not that damn bad.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
buckeyemania11;1657177; said:
Then what's the point/glory in being the Big Ten Champ?
When Michigan and Penn State win Ohio State gains in stature. When they lose the Bucks suffer from the comparison.
Case in point: Beating Oregon wouldn't look nearly so good if Wscy hadn't defeated Miami, Iowa didn't beat Ga Tech, Penn State lost to LSU and Northwestern had gotten blown out by Auburn instead of taking them down to the final play. The combined results upped Big Ten and OSU in the minds of sports writers and fans.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Gatorubet;1657139; said:
I'm on record here several times stating that the SEC seems to me to be stronger than the other conferences. There are six SEC teams: Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, LSU, Georgia and Auburn with the national rep, facilities, alum support, and decade long tradition to get into the BCSCG.
That compares to 2.5 in the Big 12, Texas, Okie and Nebraska -- ummm make that 2.25 None in the ACC this decade, none in the Big East Since FSU and Miami left, 1.5 in the Pac 10 with USC and the team de jour and 3 in the Big Ten; OSU, Penn State and Michigan.
The one fact that remains is that good as the SEC is, they seldom play a post season game north of the Ohio River or west of the Rio Grande (and playing a Northern team in Texas doesn't get it either.) I can understand your attitude that the SEC has won by playing by the current rules, but that doesn't alter the fact that the current rules favor the SEC.
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Potential vs actual. Sure they have 6 programs with that upside, but in any given year, half of those teams aren't even in the bcs discussion. That potential is what fuels the circular logic of their conference strength, when in reality those #3-5 teams struggle mightily to beat mediocre teams like psu, NW or the down year wisc/Iowa teams.cincibuck;1657588; said:
uga and aub were no better
than 2nd tier teams from other conferences. They could have been, but they weren't.
Lsu shouldve been a title contender, instead they were a step behind psu who was not impressive.
The sec usually has 1 great team and 1 very good team, and those two stack up well with any other conference. The bowl results don't back up the hyperbole about the supremacy of the depth behind them. They usually are about even with the big ten depth squads, which haven't been that strong most of this decade.
Folks confuse history - what lsu did in 03/07 - and variety (many different teams succeed in the bcs) with whether there are actually that many great teams each year.
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cjmik_75
Legend
Going back twenty football seasons (1990) Ohio State has played 17 OOC road games finishing 13-4.
4 losses to: USC, Miami Fl.(in NJ), UCLA and Washington.
13 wins against: Texas, Notre Dame, BC, Pitt, Mizzou, Arizona, NC State, Washington, Cincinnati, Syracuse, Toledo and West Virginia.
Compared to a certain SEC school down in the Bayou that played only 9 OOC games in that same period finishing (6-6).OK so there were 12 played...can't forget those 3 wins vs Tulane...point being out of 20 seasons 9 of them included zero OOC games and just 5 since 1999.
The point is OSU has been traveling for years and winning better than 75% of the time. Recent BCSNCG struggles and 0-fer in bowl games vs SEC opponents is the perception espin and others out there would like Ohio State to be known for. Not the big ten or national titles just the negative stuff.
That's probably where most of this stems from.
4 losses to: USC, Miami Fl.(in NJ), UCLA and Washington.
13 wins against: Texas, Notre Dame, BC, Pitt, Mizzou, Arizona, NC State, Washington, Cincinnati, Syracuse, Toledo and West Virginia.
Compared to a certain SEC school down in the Bayou that played only 9 OOC games in that same period finishing (6-6).OK so there were 12 played...can't forget those 3 wins vs Tulane...point being out of 20 seasons 9 of them included zero OOC games and just 5 since 1999.
The point is OSU has been traveling for years and winning better than 75% of the time. Recent BCSNCG struggles and 0-fer in bowl games vs SEC opponents is the perception espin and others out there would like Ohio State to be known for. Not the big ten or national titles just the negative stuff.
That's probably where most of this stems from.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Gatorubet;1657615; said:
Texas was 1 or 2 preseason with Colt McCoy F QB,
ND was #7 with Brady Quinn S QB
Mizzou was top 25 with Corbly (?) at S QB, all Big 12 previous year
NC State was in top 25 with Phil Rivers, S QB
West Virginia was in top 10 preseason with potential AA RB, Amos Otis? Played with the Steelers for several years including a Super Bowl.
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
I guess I don't care so much about all-Big-12 previous years, or preseason ranking as I do how they wound up.cincibuck;1657625; said:
If you generally beat the ones that were ranked below you, and you generally lost to the ones that were ranked above you, the OOC thing would seem not as important a factor, and it would appear that the strength of the team one played is a more dispositive issue...which would be my guess as to the best determinative factor, and not so much the team's geographical location.
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