Game Thread 2010 Rose Bowl: Ohio State 26 Oregon 17 (Final, 1/01/2010)

[Merih]

And Texas brought both Orakpo and Kindle.

 

[NUTS4theBUCKS28]

this is kinda random, but you guys should check out some of the artwork ive done in jwinslows rose bowl contest page

 

[cincibuck]

I don't know if I need to watch another Oregon game or not but this is what I think I saw:

Ohio State has better overall team speed
Oregon's D-line is weak..which bodes well for our running attack
On offense I saw a lot of rollouts, I think if you can keep Masoli in the pocket he will be much less effective
I don't think that Oregon has seen a Dline like O States and Ohio State eats up smaller running backs (and all running backs for that matter)
It's all going to come down to how well Ohio State can play responsibilities. Oregon is going to get some yards, but if you play your responsibilities you can minimize Oregon's offensive attack.
It stinks that our kicking game isn't so great this year because I think field position is going to be big in this game with that offense were facing.
Oregon's DB's play off from what I saw...wayyyyy off. Canfield had all day to get the ball there, it looked like he just lobbed it up there.
If you think Taylor Mays was good, watch Kurt Coleman.
Pryor will be 100% and ready to go. He'll have his legs back which he didn't have for last 3 or so games.


idk I reaally wish I had a game available to me so I could actually "scout" them.. but I don't

I don't disagree with your overall assessment and I like the advantage I think I see in the D-line and linebackers, hey, throw in the secondary while you're at it.

Having said that, look at the yardage and clock time Tate managed against the Bucks and he ain't half the player Masoli is, nor did he have the running backs and receivers Masoli can count on for support and pass protection.

The Bucks will have their hands full, especially if they don't hit some short routes early and force Oregon to play an honest defense.

I want the Bucks up by two scores when Oregon last gets their hands on the ball.

 

[webfootcharlie]

UF had two, LSU had 3 top-5 talents (Francois threw it away with off-field trouble).

This is a great match up. Buck's have no finger on the Ducks. I appreciate you allowing me on this forum, its first rate and thankyou. I have watched your Defense on some videos and they look to be very good, most likely the best we will see. Our team speed is everywhere on both sides of the ball. If you look at the O line, they are not big bruisers but they were recruited for this O. they create space for defenses to move into were our backs will not be in. Our d is small but they are tough and the linbackers are very fast. Tight ends are efficient and watch out for jeff mahel. This kid is a playmaker who likes to hit. Was recruited to be a d back. James has 4.4 speed and hits the hole before you know what hit you. He has 1475 yards in first year as freshman. Pause for a split second on the zone read and Masoli has you. So I am not saying we will win cause I dont know but I will say we are fast we are tough and very dangerous. We do have weeknesses like all teams do. But you better respect us, We respect the bucks and will bring everything we have on jan 1. good luck good people of buck nation.

 

[starBUCKS]

What BS! Tickets went on sale at 11 am, I had 2 computers and and my brother was on his to try and get seats, all three came back no seats available. I don't even think they released any to the "public".

 

[CalvinistBuck]

Predicting tOSU's strategy on offense

While much of the chest thumping has revolved around the alleged high-power Duck offense and the stout Buckeye defense, it may be the perceived weaknesses of these two teams that have a greater role in the outcome of this game. In my humble opinion, if tOSU offense is opportunistic and productive, the Buckeyes should win.

Since I'm interested in discussing and predicting strategy, which of the two approaches do you think the Buckeyes will employ on offense and why?

A) Along the lines of typical Tresselball, the Bucks will try to establish a power running attack at the outset. They will dare the Ducks to stop the run and utilize a game plan that reduces risk in order to limit turnovers and win the field position battle.

B) The Tressel-led Bucks will come out throwing the ball and make an attempt to deviate from their typical power running game. In an effort to stretch the field, the Buckeyes will try to establish a passing game in order to set up a solid running attack.

To suppose that tOSU offense will seek to have a balanced attack of running and passing is too easy. If you think the two options above are not satisfactory, then would you predict that JT will be conservative or modify current tendencies and take risk?

 

[Muck]

For the oakland raiders, maybe. Otherwise, there is zero use of their school colors above the ankle.

Yeah but it's got those cool Iowa Hawkeye wings on the sho....err forget it I got nuthin.

 

[bukIpower]

I don't disagree with your overall assessment and I like the advantage I think I see in the D-line and linebackers, hey, throw in the secondary while you're at it.

Having said that, look at the yardage and clock time Tate managed against the Bucks and he ain't half the player Masoli is, nor did he have the running backs and receivers Masoli can count on for support and pass protection.

The Bucks will have their hands full, especially if they don't hit some short routes early and force Oregon to play an honest defense.

I want the Bucks up by two scores when Oregon last gets their hands on the ball.

People may disagree with me here but I think Tate is actually a more consistent passer than Oregon's QB. Moseli doesn't do as much creative things with the ball that Tate does either. I think Moseli is obviously a much bigger threat on the ground though. One thing they both have in common is they turn the ball over.

 

[Bucks21]

While much of the chest thumping has revolved around the alleged high-power Duck offense and the stout Buckeye defense, it may be the perceived weaknesses of these two teams that have a greater role in the outcome of this game. In my humble opinion, if tOSU offense is opportunistic and productive, the Buckeyes should win.

Since I'm interested in discussing and predicting strategy, which of the two approaches do you think the Buckeyes will employ on offense and why?

A) Along the lines of typical Tresselball, the Bucks will try to establish a power running attack at the outset. They will dare the Ducks to stop the run and utilize a game plan that reduces risk in order to limit turnovers and win the field position battle.

B) The Tressel-led Bucks will come out throwing the ball and make an attempt to deviate from their typical power running game. In an effort to stretch the field, the Buckeyes will try to establish a passing game in order to set up a solid running attack.

To suppose that tOSU offense will seek to have a balanced attack of running and passing is too easy. If you think the two options above are not satisfactory, then would you predict that JT will be conservative or modify current tendencies and take risk?

I believe Tressel break some tendencies in this game and we will see more passing on first and second down, mainly in the first half. I think he will mix in some "special" plays or looks and compared to what we are used to seeing be more aggressive. I predict to see this type of play in the first half, which I think he would like to get out to an early lead. Come second half I think he will try to pound the Ducks out and ride out a lead on the defense.

 

[jwinslow]

People may disagree with me here but I think Tate is actually a more consistent passer than Oregon's QB.

In OOC play, yes. In b10 play, no.

Moseli doesn't do as much creative things with the ball that Tate does either.

I'm not sure what this means. Are you talking about the shovel pass while he's getting sacked? That play quickly lost it's effectiveness once folks watched film.

Masoli doesn't make as many bad improvisations with the football. He's a crafty scrambler, but he doesn't run himself into sacks as often as Tate. He also doesn't seem to force a pass every time he's rolling out right, falling down while being sacked, releasing it while horizontal 2 feet off the turf. Tate must have done that a dozen times.

Both of them hold the ball dangerously at times (pryor does as well), but Masoli isn't built like a twig and can get away with it more often than not (likewise Pryor gets away with it even more given his better size/strength).

 

[Buckeneye]

Masoli doesn't make as many bad improvisations with the football. .

Really? When I watched the Zona game he made several very poor decisions once the play broke down. On top of the fact he lives very dangerously when it comes to ball security.

 

[jwinslow]

I'm not arguing that Masoli is above those mistakes, just that Tate is a lot more mistake prone imo.

 

[Buckeneye]

Ahh I see, in that case - yeah, the Tot sucks

 

[Woody1968]

I'm not arguing that Masoli is above those mistakes, just that Tate is a lot more mistake prone imo.

Plus Masoli can withstand a hit better than Tate, from what I have seen. He doesn't flail around as much or scramble into the arms of the defender.

 

[cincibuck]

which of the two approaches do you think the Buckeyes will employ on offense and why?

A) Along the lines of typical Tresselball, the Bucks will try to establish a power running attack at the outset. They will dare the Ducks to stop the run and utilize a game plan that reduces risk in order to limit turnovers and win the field position battle.

I'd rule out Tresselball in this game. 1) he doesn't have a consistent punter. 2) he doesn't have his #1 place kicker. 3) this (Oregon's) is not an offense that's worried about, or reacts to field position -- probably more dangerous plus 60 yards from the goal than inside the red zone -- play too close to the vest and you could be down 14 in the blink of an eye.

B) The Tressel-led Bucks will come out throwing the ball and make an attempt to deviate from their typical power running game. In an effort to stretch the field, the Buckeyes will try to establish a passing game in order to set up a solid running attack.

I hope this is the scenario. If Oregon packs the box it will be up to Pryor to hit a couple of quick short routes, possibly over the middle where the Bucks haven't gone much this year. Saine could have a big day as could Ballard and Stonebreaker. I'm convinced Pryor can do this, but I haven't seen enough to prove it.