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Game Thread 2010 Rose Bowl: Ohio State 26 Oregon 17 (Final, 1/01/2010)

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Woody1968;1614507; said:
And please don't insult us by comparing us to Stanford.

Ohio State will have the best defense you have faced this year. I honestly cannot see you scoring more than 20 points. That is not a knock on your offense, our defense is that good. I see a couple of good series for you guys, but I also see several series of 3 and outs. Masoli will have to be able to throw the ball in order for you to have a chance to win. But you are not going to have the big plays that you see against small, speedy and less physical defenses. I generally like Oregon in the Pac-10, but I think defense and ball control will be enough to give us the edge.
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We will lose if we dont get 20.

As bad of a DC as we have you will not be able to beat us strictly running the ball. TP will have to make throws, and as I am limited as to the amount of tOS U games I have seen he hasnt looked to be a HUGE thread in that regard.
 
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buck1973;1614899; said:
You do realize it's possible to make the same comparison for OSU's defense and the defenses Oregon has faced, right?

Average points allowed for Oregon's opposing defenses: 24.3
OSU defense: 12.17

So basically all you're saying is that the Oregon offense scores 12 more ppg than the average offense OSU has faced and the OSU defense allows 12 less ppg than the average defense Oregon has faced.
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I realize. What I am saying is. I do not think Big 10 defenses are better than the PAC 10s defenses. I believe that Pac 10 offenses are much better than the Big 10s. I think that Oregon has played a much tougher schedule than Ohio St.

Where we disagree is I think that the Big 10 was not very good this year and I think the PAC 10 was the best conference this year. I think we disagree that Oregon played a much tougher schedule this year.
 
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cincibuck;1614565; said:
Hard to tell. Was Oregon just not ready, or is Boise State that good? Did USC just fall apart after Columbus? What happened at Purdue?

Neither team is an easy read across the season and then there's the 40 days off for the Buckeyes, (less than thirty for the Ducks) and another away game with the crowd against them.

BTW how the hell did Illinois get permission to play TWO games after the sacred 3rd Saturday in November?
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In regard to BSU: Oregon had the fewest starts on the oline in the nation (If I recall correctly) which is why Phil Steele ranked us to finish top 40.
 
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GODUCKS4;1614785; said:
I am not sure how good OSUs defense is? Lets look at the offenses they have played.

Wisconsin 21 32.8
Toledo 41 29.7
Penn St. 41 29.7
Michigan 45 29.5
Navy 53 28.3
Purdue 56 27.8
USC 64 26.7
Illinois 82 24.2
Indiana 84 23.5
Iowa 86 23.1
Minnesota 98 21.6
New Mexico State 120 11.5

AVG. 25.7 points. I have a hard time believing that OSU is the toughest defense Oregon has faced. Personally I think the PAC 10 is a much better conference than the Big 10 this year.

Oregon 7 37.7. OSU has not faced an offense as good as Oregon's and OSU has not played a spread offense like Oregon's. No one in CFB has an offense like Oregon's.

I am sure you all watched Chip Kelly's offense when Oregon destroyed Michigan in 07. Oregon put up the most yards ever at the Big House 624 yards. OSU ended up scoring 14 points in 07 vs Michigan. Point being, Chip Kelly is an amazing coach and has three weeks to prepare for OSU. I will be surprised is OSU can hold Oregon to under 40 points.

I think the biggest factor is that OSU has never played an offense like Oregon's. Most of you watched the Oregon State game and did you see how confused the Oregon state offense looked? That is how all defenses look vs Chip's offense. I thought Oregon state did pretty well vs the zone read compared to Oregon's other opponents. I am seeing a lot of OSU fans making assumptions about Oregon based solely on the Civil War. Be careful becasue it is a rivalry game. No matter how good either team is it is always close.



GO DUCKS! 38 17
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Do you drive a purple camaro?
 
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Did he just say that he thinks Pac 10 defenses are no worse than Big 10 defenses? I question whether or not you've ever watched a football game, not only just the Buckeyes.

duck-n-ur-buck;1614904; said:
Im not going to say we score in the 30's but this will be by far the fastest offense Ohio State has played this year and one of the fastest of recent.
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I agree that this will be the biggest test that we have faced all year. I predict a 33-30 game or something similar.

We kept Texas to 24 points in the Fiesta Bowl. They were averaging over 42 points per game last year. Our defense is much improved over last year, due to the play by our defensive line and our ability to force turnovers at an impressive rate. This defense is no Pac 10 defense.
 
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GODUCKS4;1614911; said:
I realize. What I am saying is. I do not think Big 10 defenses are better than the PAC 10s defenses. I believe that Pac 10 offenses are much better than the Big 10s. I think that Oregon has played a much tougher schedule than Ohio St.

Where we disagree is I think that the Big 10 was not very good this year and I think the PAC 10 was the best conference this year. I think we disagree that Oregon played a much tougher schedule this year.
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4 top 25 Big Ten teams, 4 top 25 Pac 10 teams.

Where I will agree with you is that the bottom of the Big 10 is worse than the bottom of the Pac 10. But that's about it.
 
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How good the conferences are as a whole is fairly irrelevant. The top teams in each conferences are probably worthy.

OSU is an established power for a reason. Same with Texas, Florida, etc. I'd bet that they'd finish at the top in any conference.
 
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Merih;1614794; said:
Okay if you really want to play that game...I want to say that your defense is terrible. Stanford ran roughshod through you to easy points, and we have better athletes at every position on the field (comparing to Stanford). Oregon's offense plays against defenses in the Pac 10, who quite honestly are equally atrocious. When you condition your players for speed and speed only, power teams will get their turn to break you and your lack of depth. We will be picking on #37 at every turn possible, as he seemed to only be able to defend a pass through pass interference, and was still torched on a 1 minute drill, where (duh) OSU was going to throw to the endzone.

Against your miniature defensive line Ohio State will hold the ball for 40 minutes, and will not give Oregon a chance to flex their "unstoppable" muscles. Oregon will get frustrated at how well Ohio State tackles, and force plays that they shouldn't. Masoli will not truck Kurt Coleman, trust me.




You are certainly invited to take off your green, yellow, metal, gray, black, and whatever else colors you have off.
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Masoli will not truck Coleman as he is a freaking stud--should be a Thorpe Finalist. Also, its not metal its steel.

Like I said a couple posts ago TP will need to beat us with his arm, TJ3 (#37) and Cliff Harris are inexperienced but we lost a premiere CB in WT3 and his back up also. I also highly doubt TP hitting receivers as well as Andrew Luck of Stanford. And your RB is nowhere near as good as Gerheart--please take those homer glasses off.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2009&rpt=IA_playerrush&site=org&div=IA&dest=O
 
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GODUCKS4;1614911; said:
I realize. What I am saying is. I do not think Big 10 defenses are better than the PAC 10s defenses. I believe that Pac 10 offenses are much better than the Big 10s. I think that Oregon has played a much tougher schedule than Ohio St.

Where we disagree is I think that the Big 10 was not very good this year and I think the PAC 10 was the best conference this year. I think we disagree that Oregon played a much tougher schedule this year.
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I can just as easily argue that Big Ten offenses appear worse than the Pac 10 because the Big Ten defenses are better.
 
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duck-n-ur-buck;1614924; said:
Masoli will not truck Coleman as he is a freaking stud--should be a Thorpe Finalist. Also, its not metal its steel.

Like I said a couple posts ago TP will need to beat us with his arm, TJ3 (#37) and Cliff Harris are inexperienced but we lost a premiere CB in WT3 and his back up also. I also highly doubt TP hitting receivers as well as Andrew Luck of Stanford. And your RB is nowhere near as good as Gerheart--please take those homer glasses off.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2009&rpt=IA_playerrush&site=org&div=IA&dest=O
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I think Pryor's efficiency will surprise you, as long as our line shows up.

We do not have a Gerhart. We have two main backs who play different but complementing games who will be productive (as long as our line shows up).

I'm really looking forward to this game.. I think it'll be an exciting thriller. I don't see a 38-17 beatdown as the other dude predicted, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't watch football - he just listens to ESPN.
 
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EidoloN;1614799; said:
Well, it's like you said, tOSU-scUM is a RIVALRY as well, bigger than the Civil War...so "be careful because it is a rivalry game".

Our D is faster, bigger, stronger than Oregon State's, and they were getting into the backfield frequently, so I do see us disrupting Masoli's timing quite often. Also, with our rushing attack, I believe we will rush for 300+ yards, so if you don't have the ball, you don't score. So I do not see 40pts being put up against the Bucks, sorry. The Ducks will score, but they definately will not put up 40.

Also, we have the Terrelle Pryor factor. Your D will not take the correct angles to take him down when he get's outside the pocket because you haven't played him.

I believe it will be a good game, but I think we take a victory by 10pts, something to the affect of 31-21.
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The Big Game has lost a lot of its luster with the dismantling of the Michigan program. Its much bigger nationally and always will be. But the Civil War this year was rated as the 2nd most watch Thursday game ever behind the Texas TTU game last year (quoting from memory but think that is correct).
 
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