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2010 Rivals/Scout/etc. National & Regional Rankings

DontHateOState;1429321; said:
Not really. It can be very easy to see ceilings on players when you see them live and in person. I have no clue whether JW has hit his ceiling, but it can be clear once you see a player's frame, physical tools, and level of play.

And to be clear, I didn't say he has, just saying it was a question mark. I personally am still high on him but I just could see where the evaluators were coming from. However, don't see where they are coming from on McVey.
 
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Scout.com: The Scout 100 (article)

Scout's initial Top 100 was released in December, and with the several months past and the Class of 2009 firmly behind us, we will be going 500 deep in our rankings before the week is out. Today is a look at the Top 100 ranked players in the country, led by the player many on the Scout team feels is the best offensive line prospect in Scout's history.
North Regional Manager and Scout.com National Analyst Bob Lichtenfels put it simply when talking about Henderson. "He's Andre Smith, and he's four inches taller," said Lichtenfels from the Scout.com Recruiting summit in Pittsburgh last week. Lichtenfels provided a thorough scouting report on Henderson earlier this month, and when the Scout managers came together last week to pour through the National 100 and beyond, Henderson was a unanimous No. 1 pick.

"Unanimous" anything is hard to come by when it comes to a science as imperfect as predicting the future performance of teenagers, and Henderson's ranking at the top of the ladder was probably the only thing the Scouts of Scout.com could conclusively agree on. But after eight hours of being sequestered in a conference room at the Hampton Inn of downtown Pittsburgh, the Regional Managers of Scout.com poured over video, shared the top players in their region with the rest of the team, and came to a consensus Scout National 100.
Ohio State Commitment Andrew Norwell (6-6/265) is the No. 2 offensive line prospect in the Nation, but we think enough of him as a prospect overall, that he checks in at No. 5 on the Scout 100. Norwell's physical attributes match those of most 1st round NFL prospects. He's a player with a great work ethic, flexibility, natural strength and leverage, and a frame to keep growing.
Most top cornerbacks on the prep ranks make their presence felt in other aspect of the game, and no one in the country personifies that idea more than south Florida's LaMarcus Joyner (5-9/170/4.35). Joyner will play at St. Thomas Aquinas in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. this year, and he is arguably the most explosive player in the country. He has the instincts and skill set to play corner to go along with blazing speed. Joyner may see time in several places on the field on the college game. He certainly gives head coaches something to think about before kicking the ball his way.
Top 100 List

1. Seantrell Henderson
5. Andrew Norwell
8. Lamarcus Joyner
9. Jeff Luc
10. Kyle Prater
12. Jordan Hicks
15. Jamel Turner
20. James Hurst
27. Garrison Smith
54. Christian Green
57. William Gholston
59. Jaylen Watkins
60. Khairi Fortt
63. Mack Brown
73. Spencer Ware
77. Devin Gardner
78. CJ Fiedorowicz
81. Tai-ler Jones
83. Robert Bolden
93. Chris Dunkley
94. Roderick Smith
98. Matt James

I think I got the familiar names...
 
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Scout.com: Football Recruiting

From 101-300

117. Nick Montana
125. Brandon Ifill
127. Chaz Green
137. Dior Mathis
140. Jay Guy
145. Alex Smith
149. Jerald Robinson
160. Jimmy Gjere
163. Ricardo Miller
168. Corey Brown (listed as WR)
170. Delvin Jones
182. Marvin Robinson
213. Latwan Anderson
248. Ivan McCartney
251. Isaiah Lewis (listed with OSU interest)
254. Cullen Christian
265. Nickell Robey
282. Christian Bryant
293. Scott McVey

Hope I got everyone....
 
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eobuck;1437275; said:
One "guru" at Rivals said McVey is too little and has no position. Said he is a mid-3*

That comment makes no sense at all. His weight is listed by both sites at 217 which seems plenty big considering he's not even a high school senior yet. Rivals has him at 5'11 and Scout 6'1 which could be a tad less than prototype depending on what source you go with. However, he still has time to grow and even if he does not there have been plenty of LB's succeed with less than ideal height. I took a quick glance at Rivals Top 100 to see if there are any LB's of similar stature to McVey listed and not surprisingly there are - #24 Corey Nelson 6'0-210, #42 Toney Jefferson 6'0-196 and #97 Nick Forbes 6'0-217. If the "guru" wanted to argue that McVey is a 3 star due to talent then he would be entitled to his opionion but stating issues with size or lack of position do not hold any weight.
 
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itownbuckeye;1438080; said:
That comment makes no sense at all. His weight is listed by both sites at 217 which seems plenty big considering he's not even a high school senior yet. Rivals has him at 5'11 and Scout 6'1 which could be a tad less than prototype depending on what source you go with. However, he still has time to grow and even if he does not there have been plenty of LB's succeed with less than ideal height. I took a quick glance at Rivals Top 100 to see if there are any LB's of similar stature to McVey listed and not surprisingly there are - #24 Corey Nelson 6'0-210, #42 Toney Jefferson 6'0-196 and #97 Nick Forbes 6'0-217. If the "guru" wanted to argue that McVey is a 3 star due to talent then he would be entitled to his opionion but stating issues with size or lack of position do not hold any weight.
He's similar build to what Tyler Moeller was his senior of of HS, and this kid's still a junior. I'd take those comments with a pillar of salt. if a kid's got the instincts like McVey does... well... the fact that the staff offered him tells me all I need to know about him. This staff has proven they know a good LB when they see one.
 
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Scout.com: North Regional 150 Released

"The linemen in the North Region are a special group led by two of the best we have seen in years," says Bob Lichtenfels, North regional manager for Scout.com. "Henderson is the total package. He has size, athletcism and nastiness and he still has not even come close to reaching his full potential. He is as technically sound as anyone we have seen in the past few years. Norwell is a finisher. He finishes every block and is one of the msot dominant linemen we have seen in the Midwest in a while. He reminds me of former Michigan Wolverine Jake Long.

The region also holds the top wide receiver in the country with Kyle Prater from Proviso West High in Hillside, Illinois. "Upon first look at Prater one may say this kid is a tight end prospect, that is until you see him play. His speed and athleticism is uncanny for a man of his size and to top it of he is as agile as most receivers who are half his size," says Lichtenfels, who also thinks the top linebacker could potentially come from the region as well. "On film, Hicks may be the best linebacker in the country. He covers sideline to sideline as good as anyone. He reads and reacts and explodes into the backfield often disrupting everything."

Scout.com Pittsburgh combine MVP Jamel Turner also jumped up high in the rankings with his potential at several positions. "A force at defensive end, but he will likely play linebacker in college. Turner loves getting after the quarterback and he does it as good as anybody. He can also cover and is very stout against the run."
Scout.com: NorthTop 150 for the Class of 2010

1. Seantrell Henderson
2. Andrew Norwell - OSU
3. Jordan Hicks
4. Jamel Turner - OSU
5. Paul Jones - Penn State
6. James Hurst
8. Kyle Prater
10. Mike Hull - Penn State
12. William Gholston
13. Khairi Fortt
16. Spencer Ware
17. C.J. Fiedorowicz
18. Devin Gardner - Michigan
20. Robert Bolden
22. Roderick Smith
23. Matt James
32. Brandon Ifill
34. Dior Mathis
38. Alex Smith - Cincinnati
39. Jerald Robinson - Michigan
42. Jimmy Gjere - Minnesota
44. Corey Brown
55. Latwan Anderson
66. Cullen Christian
73. Christian Bryant
76. Scott McVey
87. J.T. Moore - OSU
94. Courtney Avery
95. Daryll Baldwin
101. Jayrone Elliot
105. Eric Howard
106. Jeremy Jackson - Michigan
114. Andrew Donnal
123. Justin Hunter
127. Derrick Bryant
137. Jibreel Black
150. Tyrone Williams
 
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