2010 Rivals/Scout/etc. National & Regional Rankings

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2010 O Line rankings by Jim Stefani.

Henderson is #1
Norwell is #7
Matt James from St X is #9.

How does Stefani use his numerical rating system (not ranking, mind you)? He has all OL 1-465 rated as a "5."

EDIT: Here's his explanation:

"For juniors:

5 stars: A top-level BCS prospect
4 stars: A BCS prospect
3 stars: A lower-level D-I prospect
2 stars: A sub D-I college prospect
1 star: On the radar"

That's a pretty generous evaluation of to-level BCS talent!

 

[wadc45]

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Breaking down the first five-stars for 2010

Of note:

10. LB Jeff Luc, 6-1/230, Port St. Lucie (Fla.) Treasure Coast

WHY HE'S A FIVE-STAR: "He may be the best form tackler on film that I have seen. He gets into a perfect tackling position and explodes from the hips while wrapping his arms around the ballcarrier. Luc tackles someone all the way to the ground and through the sound of the whistle blowing." - Every
LUC SAYS: "I have been playing since the 6th grade and I have been coached well. I think my strengths are tackling. I try and beat everyone to the ball. If I am not the first one to ball I try and get a piece of something."
TOP SCHOOLS: Luc's growing list of offers includes Miami, Florida, FSU, USC, Notre Dame, LSU, North Carolina, Michigan, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Ole Miss, and Southern Miss. He admits growing up a fan of the Miami Hurricanes.

8. OT James Hurst, 6-6/284, Indianapolis (Ind.) Plainfield

WHY HE'S A FIVE-STAR: "He has the size, the smarts and the nastiness to be one of the top offensive tackles in the country. He is tremendous at both pass protection and run-blocking. It is not often that an offensive lineman wins MVP honors at a camp or combine, let alone the U.S. Army National Combine." - Every
HIS COACH SAYS: "Hurst is so intelligent, he is eighth in his class right now with a 4.1 GPA, and he has the rare combination of strength, speed, agility matched up with the intelligence you need in a top tier offensive lineman. You look at what NFL coaches are looking for, and some of the smartest players every year are the offensive lineman." - Plainfield head coach Brian Woodard
TOP SCHOOLS: Hurst, whose father played at Alabama, has over 18 offers from many of the nation's top programs.

7. CB Lamarcus Joyner, 5-8/166, Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) St. Thomas Aquinas

WHY HE'S A FIVE-STAR: "He has the skill set to be the best true cover corner in the country, and he also has the mentality of a hard-hitting safety. He is fast, physical and a ballhawk. Joyner possesses short-term memory, and being beaten once will not affect him on the next play." - Every
JOYNER SAYS: "I have it in my mind every time I take the field that I'm the best player out there and that I'm out there to dominate. I don't go out there to just make some big plays, but where as I expect to make every play."
TOP SCHOOLS: Florida leads a long list of schools in the mix for Joyner.

1. OT Seantrel Henderson, 6-8/301, Saint Paul (Minn.) Cretin-Derham Hall

WHY HE'S A FIVE-STAR: "Could possibly be one of the most athletic offensive lineman in the past 10 years. He is a natural knee-bender who runs like a gazelle. Henderson has the ability to slide his feet while staying in contact with a defender." - Every
HENDERSON SAYS: "I have a better future in football. There are a lot of 6-8 guys that are a dime a dozen in basketball."
TOP SCHOOLS: Henderson has a long list of suitors that includes Boston College, Florida, Florida State, Iowa, Minnesota, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon, UCLA and Wisconsin.

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Initial 2010 Rivals100 big on Texas talent

Of note:

1. Seantrel Henderson
7. Lamarcus Joyner
8. James Hurst
10. Jeff Luc
16. Jordan Hicks
18. Kyle Prater
22. Khairi Fortt
27. Jaylen Watkins
32. Jamel Turner
37. Christian Green
44. Williams Gholston
46. Mack Brown
54. Andrew Norwell
61. Chris Dunkley
66. Latwan Anderson
69. Corey Brown
74. Garrison Smith
77. Delvin Jones
85. Ivan McCartney
93. Dyjuan Lewis
94. Spencer Ware
96. Kadron Boone
99. Marvin Robinson

 

[crazybuckfan40]

If there are 53 guys better than Norwell, then this is the most top heavy class ever...

 

[TheIronColonel]

I'm guessing that he's going to slide down a few lists due to the early commitment.

 

[goblue15]

The Southern bias is ridiculous, no way is Turner not a 5 star and Norwell is rated way too low. How are Devin Gardner and Ricardo Miller not in the top 100 at all? Oh well the only thing that matters is how they preform in college.

 

[emu]

I'd like to see 100 players more heavily recruited than Matt James.

 

[RB07OSU]

What they butchered:
1. Norwell is the best OL since Pace, better or just as good as Adams in HS, I'll say it. I hope he shows up at the Cincy combine and proves why. No way on earth he isn't top 10 nationally.
2. No Tai-ler Jones...how are there 100 players better than Jones? I know the 30 schools that offered him don't think so.
3. No Matt James...they are out of their minds here. Easily top 100 material and top 50 imo. Everyone has offered.
4. Turner is too low. We all know he is a special athlete and is in the 10-20 range nationally imo.
5. Ware is too low. I know there are concerns that he has maxed out and I can understand that, but as of now, I believe Ware is in the 50-70 range. Not a huge deal here though.
6. James Hurst is WAY too high. He is a good player but top 10 nationally...a 5 star? Sorry but he is in the lower half of the 100 list.
7. Corey Brown is WAY too low. Brown is a 5 star and he is just not ranked high because of his injury. A healthy Corey Brown is a 5 star top 10-25 range.
8. No Nick Montana? I thought for sure he would turn up somewhere.
What they got right:
1. Jordan Hicks...kind of. Hicks isn't the top player in the state, Norwell is. Then Norwell is followed by Turner. However, I believe all 3 are 5 star material. However, he is an uncommited prospect looking to head south, so no surprise I guess.
2. Seantrel Henderson. He is the #1 guy, no doubt in my mind.
3. Lamarcus Joyner is big time and his ranking reinforces that.
4. Jeff Luc...he is filthy good and #10 in the country is appropriate.
5. No Baldwin or Bryant. Both are good players but Baldwin definetly will have something to prove this year and Bryant is more of a 150-200 range guy to me.

- All in all, not a bad list overall but there are some serious screw ups. Every year, Ohio is going to have at least one 5 star player and Rivals almost never wants to admit it. Hopefully we have some guys show up to their combines and force them to get the ranking. This is as loaded as I've seen Ohio since the '02 class...there are definetly two 5 stars in Norwell and Turner, I say Hicks is debatable but the offer list makes him one. Matt James also can be thrown in contention as well if he has a healthy season, his offer list speaks for itself. This year is so top heavy in Ohio talent that there is no excuses for Rivals this year.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

Surprise, surprise. Rivals drops the top rated Ohio guys. Guess they're going to have to "prove" themselves in the all-star games before they get their due.

Turner is one of the most explosive athletes I've seen this year. He's the Joyner of DE/OLB's. Top 20 player.

Only reason I can imagine Norwell being out of the top 50 is because he's projected at RT. He's still a better prospect than Fluker who was moved up to #3 overall despite being abused in the Army AA game. I think Norwell should be about where Turner is.

Still, I guess being rated in the top 100 isn't too shabby.

 

[westbuck04]

What they butchered:
1. Norwell is the best OL since Pace, better or just as good as Adams in HS, I'll say it. I hope he shows up at the Cincy combine and proves why. No way on earth he isn't top 10 nationally.
2. No Tai-ler Jones...how are there 100 players better than Jones? I know the 30 schools that offered him don't think so.
3. No Matt James...they are out of their minds here. Easily top 100 material and top 50 imo. Everyone has offered.
4. Turner is too low. We all know he is a special athlete and is in the 10-20 range nationally imo.
5. Ware is too low. I know there are concerns that he has maxed out and I can understand that, but as of now, I believe Ware is in the 50-70 range. Not a huge deal here though.
6. James Hurst is WAY too high. He is a good player but top 10 nationally...a 5 star? Sorry but he is in the lower half of the 100 list.
7. Corey Brown is WAY too low. Brown is a 5 star and he is just not ranked high because of his injury. A healthy Corey Brown is a 5 star top 10-25 range.
8. No Nick Montana? I thought for sure he would turn up somewhere.
What they got right:
1. Jordan Hicks...kind of. Hicks isn't the top player in the state, Norwell is. Then Norwell is followed by Turner. However, I believe all 3 are 5 star material. However, he is an uncommited prospect looking to head south, so no surprise I guess.
2. Seantrel Henderson. He is the #1 guy, no doubt in my mind.
3. Lamarcus Joyner is big time and his ranking reinforces that.
4. Jeff Luc...he is filthy good and #10 in the country is appropriate.
5. No Baldwin or Bryant. Both are good players but Baldwin definetly will have something to prove this year and Bryant is more of a 150-200 range guy to me.

- All in all, not a bad list overall but there are some serious screw ups. Every year, Ohio is going to have at least one 5 star player and Rivals almost never wants to admit it. Hopefully we have some guys show up to their combines and force them to get the ranking. This is as loaded as I've seen Ohio since the '02 class...there are definetly two 5 stars in Norwell and Turner, I say Hicks is debatable but the offer list makes him one. Matt James also can be thrown in contention as well if he has a healthy season, his offer list speaks for itself. This year is so top heavy in Ohio talent that there is no excuses for Rivals this year.

I don't have a problem with where Hicks is ranked. He's film is incredible and, unlike Turner, he's a true linebacker.

I can't fathom why Tai-ler Jones isn't on that list. He looked much better than Ambles in that 7-on-7 video they posted, but Ambles is their boy so I wasn't expecting him to be rated higher...still, how is he not even top 100? James' offer list can match up against any offensive lineman in the country. Another glaring ommission.

 

[jwinslow]

Jim Stefani - Class of 2010: Musings

3/10

Breaks down the top national QBs & Texas & ND's recruiting class thus far.

 

[RB07OSU]

I don't have a problem with where Hicks is ranked. He's film is incredible and, unlike Turner, he's a true linebacker.

Nor do I, he got his due but I'm just saying I think Norwell is the clear cut #1 guy in the state. I could possibly see Turner and Hicks being argued, but I still think Turner is the better player with his range. Turner would have had offers all over the country if he hadn't comitted early, same with Norwell. Personally, I see Turner as a true LB if he doesn't grow any...his 6'3 height gives him great range and with his closing speed, angles don't matter.

 

[westbuck04]

Nor do I, he got his due but I'm just saying I think Norwell is the clear cut #1 guy in the state. I could possibly see Turner and Hicks being argued, but I still think Turner is the better player with his range. Turner would have had offers all over the country if he hadn't comitted early, same with Norwell. Personally, I see Turner as a true LB if he doesn't grow any...his 6'3 height gives him great range and with his closing speed, angles don't matter.

Norwell is dominating; he'd by my #1 as well. Turner is a stud, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't have the body for DE, and he hasn't played LB. He could probably do it, but there's no way to tell as of yet. He'll be a terror coming off the edge no matter where he lines up, though...

 

[OregonBuckeye]

Norwell is dominating; he'd by my #1 as well. Turner is a stud, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't have the body for DE, and he hasn't played LB. He could probably do it, but there's no way to tell as of yet. He'll be a terror coming off the edge no matter where he lines up, though...

He'll either be a great LEO or STAR.

 

[RB07OSU]

Norwell is dominating; he'd by my #1 as well. Turner is a stud, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't have the body for DE, and he hasn't played LB. He could probably do it, but there's no way to tell as of yet. He'll be a terror coming off the edge no matter where he lines up, though...

He lined up at LB the majority of the state title game...I'm not sure about the rest of the season. That is what made me convinced he will be a dominant LB. I think the frame and skill set is there for WILL. He was only about 210-215 and 6-3...I say he can get up to 240-245. I agree he doesn't end up at DE only but with his ability, I agree, send him off the edge any chance we get.

 

[Redhawk]

Rivals.com Top 250 of 2010

Here are some names that stuck out (from 101-250) who haven't committed elsewhere.

101. Tai-ler Jones
107. Jordan Haden
119. Justin Hunter
132. Matt James
134. Dior Mathis
138. Gideon Ajagbe
155. Chaz Green
192. Braylon Heard
201. JT Moore
213. C.J. Fiedorowicz
221. Eric Mack
234. Robert Bolden
239. Nick Montana
243. Tyrone Williams