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2010 Rivals/Scout/etc. National & Regional Rankings

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itownbuckeye;1438080; said:
That comment makes no sense at all. His weight is listed by both sites at 217 which seems plenty big considering he's not even a high school senior yet. Rivals has him at 5'11 and Scout 6'1 which could be a tad less than prototype depending on what source you go with. However, he still has time to grow and even if he does not there have been plenty of LB's succeed with less than ideal height. I took a quick glance at Rivals Top 100 to see if there are any LB's of similar stature to McVey listed and not surprisingly there are - #24 Corey Nelson 6'0-210, #42 Toney Jefferson 6'0-196 and #97 Nick Forbes 6'0-217. If the "guru" wanted to argue that McVey is a 3 star due to talent then he would be entitled to his opionion but stating issues with size or lack of position do not hold any weight.
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When they say this they mean his other attributes are not elite enough to out-weigh his lack of size. They don't rate prospects purely on what they look like.
 
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BigJim;1438732; said:
When they say this they mean his other attributes are not elite enough to out-weigh his lack of size. They don't rate prospects purely on what they look like.
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Obviously I understand that they don't rate prospects on what they look like. My issue is with the fact that the 'guru' stated McVey is too small. If the scout believes he is a 3 star, that's fine it is his opinion, but to state he is too small to play LB is simply not true.
 
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TheIronColonel;1438736; said:
That makes even less sense, though. Have you seen his film? He utterly dominates blockers and has good pass-coverage chops. The only potential knock against him would be his size, and that's a pretty thin excuse.
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Have you seen the higher ranked "small body" LB's film (I have not)? How do they handle blockers? Are their "chops" good for covering the pass? These rankings are all relative to each other. I like that we're going after McVey. And I agree personally that he is underrated. I'm just realistic enough to understand that it's not unreasonable for others to not agree.
 
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And the updated Rivals250:

Rivals.com Prospect Rankings

Of note:

101. Dyjuan Lewis
103. Matt James
104. Spencer Ware
127. Andrew Donnal
134. Justin Hunter
142. Nickell Robey
153. Dior Mathis
155. Jake Heaps (I only list him because I think it is a joke he is rated this low...by contrast Scout has him as their #1 QB)
176. Chaz Green
180. Brandon Linder
196. Jeffrey Godfrey
200. Andrew Hendrix
206. Christian Bryant
213. Braylon Heard
224. J.T. Moore
250. Alex Smith
 
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From The Sporting News Top 100:

3. Seantrel Henderson, OL, Cretin- Derham Hall (Saint Paul, Minn.)?The most exciting lineman prospect in years with a 6-8, 301-pound frame. ?I?m quick off the ball ?they teach us really well here,? said Henderson, who has dozens of scholarship offers but has no favorites yet.

4. Lamarcus Joyner, DB, St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.)?Leaning toward Ohio State, Joyner has a nose for the ball and making the big play, to go along with his blazing speed.

7. JAMEL TURNER DL, 6-2/205 Ursuline (Youngstown, Ohio) Note: Ohio State commitment didn?t waste any time giving his pledge, making the decision before Christmas of 2008.

37. KYLE PRATER WR, 6-4/205 Proviso West (Hillside, Ill.) Note: Illinois might be a program to contend with when it comes to this receiver, but it?s not a lock that he?ll go there.

42. CHRIS DUNKLEY WR, 5-11/169 Pahokee (Fla.) Note: Recently transferred from Royal Palm Beach to Pahokee; has a soft spot in his heart for nearby Miami.

48. JORDAN HICKS LB, 6-2/200 Lakota West (West Chester, Ohio) Note: Even though local powers Ohio State and Notre Dame are chasing him, he already has expressed some interest in Texas.

53. GARRISON SMITH DL, 6-4/259 Douglass (Atlanta) Note: It would be hard to see this local product get away from Georgia, but LSU and Ohio State are pushing for him.

54. WILLIAM GHOLSTON DL, 6-7/245 Southeastern (Detroit) Note: Nobody in the state of Michigan wants this defensive end to slip across the state border, so look for the Wolverines to keep him.

55. IVAN MCCARTNEY WR, 6-1/170 Miramar (Fla.) Note: This cousin of NFL receiver Chad Johnson has Florida, Miami and several other powerhouses chasing him.

59. ANDREW NORWELL OL, 6-6/265 Anderson (Cincinnati) Note: Another one of Ohio State?s early commitments; has football bloodlines, as his brother starred at Illinois.

65. KHAIRI FORTT LB, 6-3/221 Stamford (Conn.) Note: Boston College and UConn are in a fight to keep him in New England, but Penn State and Notre Dame will try to snag him.

70. BRANDON LINDER OL, 6-6/285 St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.) Note: Plays in one of the top high school programs in the nation; center has attracted offers from many of the nation?s powers.
 
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Initial position rankings:

Pro-style QB:

11. Andrew Hendrix
12. Nick Montana

Hmmm....

16. Luke Massa

Dual-threat QB:

1. Barry Brunetti
3. Jeffrey Godfrey
6. Robert Bolden

Running Backs:

5. Roderick Smith
6. Mack Brown
7. Corey Brown
19. Braylon Heard

Wide Receivers:

3. Kyle Prater
8. Ivan McCartney
9. Chris Dunkley
14. Dyjuan Lewis
20. Justin Hunter
40. Jerald Robinson
42. Tyrone Williams
46. Kevin Johnson
75. Jimmy Hall

Tight Ends:

4. C.J. Fiedorowicz
9. Alex Smith
10. Alex Welch

Offensive Tackles:

1. Seantrel Henderson
6. Andrew Norwell
13. Matt James
16. Andrew Donnal
21. Chaz Green
32. Skyler Schofner
34. Kevin Schloemer

Offensive Guards:

9. Matt Rotheram

Offensive Centers:

3. Brandon Linder
5. Christian Pace

Weakside Defensive Ends:

2. Jamel Turner
14. J.T. Moore

Strongside Defensive Ends:

7. Williams Gholston
10. Fre'Shad Hunter
20. Daryl Baldwin
23. Jibreel Black
26. Derrick Bryant

Defensive Tackles:

3. Garrison Smith
4. Sharrif Floyd
44. Jay Guy

Inside Linebackers:

14. Solomon Tentman
22. Jewone Snow
26. Scott McVey (joke)
30. Antonio Kinnard

Outside Linebackers:

1. Jordan Hicks
2. Khairi Fortt
35. Ken Wilkins

Cornerbacks:

2. Lamarcus Joyner
3. Cody Riggs
8. Dior Mathis
12. Christian Bryant
28. Tony Grimes

Safeties:

6. Latwan Anderson

Athletes:

4. Christian Green
11. Spencer Ware
15. Nickell Robey
16. Delvin Jones
 
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What can't they get through their heads with McVey? Am I wrong or were they at the state championship game? I don't know how you see a kid complete take over a D1 Ohio state championship game with 6.5 sacks, 1 INT, and countless QB hurries, and say there are 25 better ILB's in the country. I think Scout is leaps and bounds better this year than Rivals.
 
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