2010-11 bowl projections

[JBaney45]

I would actually like to see Oregon fall to the Rose Bowl if Wiscy is there and proceed to absolutely curb stomp them. Maybe this is a violation of the "support your conference" fan law and I should be ashamed. Maybe Bret Bielema is so unlikeable that said fan law doesn't apply. Maybe I'm just bitter.


Lol @ the possibility of Missouri playing Michigan

 

[Jake]

I would actually like to see Oregon fall to the Rose Bowl if Wiscy is there and proceed to absolutely curb stomp them. Maybe this is a violation of the "support your conference" fan law and I should be ashamed. Maybe Bret Bielema is so unlikeable that said fan law doesn't apply. Maybe I'm just bitter.


Lol @ the possibility of Missouri playing Michigan

Nah, let Wiscy play TCU in Pasadena. It's pretty much a no-win situation. Win? They're supposed to win. They're Big Ten co-champs. Lose? Well, more Big Ten bashing but that happens when a BT team loses any bowl game these days. More importantly, it stays with Wiscy forever.

 

[GeauxTigers99]

Sugar: LSU vs Boise State

Would love to see it, but I have a feeling Arkansas is going to be a real tough game in Little Rock to end the season.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I tend to agree with you - I WANT to agree with you. But the only yardstick we have currently is when they played Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl - and managed to win. Do I think they deserve to be in the NC race with the schedule they play? Hell no! But that schedule makes it very difficult to tell for sure whether they ARE better than the top teams in the BCS conferences.

An Oklahoma team that didn't take them seriously. Even then, it took a bunch of trick plays at the end to pull that win out of their ass. Any BCS team getting a crack at the truck drivers this year will be ready for them.

 

[Jake]

An Oklahoma team that didn't take them seriously. Even then, it took a bunch of trick plays at the end to pull that win out of their ass. Any BCS team getting a crack at the truck drivers this year will be ready for them.

Oklahoma doesn't do well when they DO take their BCS bowl opponents seriously (2-5, no wins since 2003).

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

If the domers beat Utah, I think TCU's sos takes a serious shot. Nevada should be in the top 20 if they beat Fresno, so I think Boise will jump TCU and get the RB slot with a win over Nevada in Reno, provided Oregon goes to the NC.

You do realize the truck drivers think they'll beat either us or Wiscy by three touchdowns. I'd love to be the school that plunger rapes them back into irrelevance.

 

[Ryan36_1]

I tend to agree with you - I WANT to agree with you. But the only yardstick we have currently is when they played Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl - and managed to win. Do I think they deserve to be in the NC race with the schedule they play? Hell no! But that schedule makes it very difficult to tell for sure whether they ARE better than the top teams in the BCS conferences.

How is beating a top AQ school (with an atrocious BCS bowl record nonetheless) in a bowl game more a yardstick than losing to mediocre AQ schools or other non-AQ schools in bowl games?

 

[ShmeagsTOSU]

I want to play a SEC in a bowl game, this is the year

 

[Jake]

If the domers beat Utah, I think TCU's sos takes a serious shot. Nevada should be in the top 20 if they beat Fresno, so I think Boise will jump TCU and get the RB slot with a win over Nevada in Reno, provided Oregon goes to the NC.

You do realize the truck drivers think they'll beat either us or Wiscy by three touchdowns. I'd love to be the school that plunger rapes them back into irrelevance.

I have a high school friend who lives in Boise. Haven't seen him in years but he found me on Facebook last year. Short story, he's totally drinking the blue kool aid out there.

Boise would "own" the Big Ten, according to him. I told him he's watched a few too many blowouts of New Mexico State and Idaho.

 

[SloopyHangOn]

At this point I could see Oregon AND Auburn both losing late.

Let's just play with that idea a little bit. If Oregon loses to 'Zona or OSUw and Auburn loses to 'Bama AND Cocky:


Title: BSU v LSU

Rose: Wisconsin v. Oregon
Sugar: South Carolina v. Ohio State
Fiesta: Nebraska v. USF (or whoever the fuck wins the BigEast)
Orange: Virginia Tech v. TCU

God, that would be awful, but then imagine if Northwestern or tSUN knocks off Wisconsin.

Title: BSU v LSU

Rose: Ohio State v. Oregon
Sugar: South Carolina v. TCU
Fiesta: Nebraska v. USF
Orange: Virginia Tech v. Stanford

I'd say that's even worse. THEN imagine if in addition to all of that, one of the Oklahoma schools beats the 'Huskers in the BigX(II)CG and Stanford drops one.

Title: BSU v LSU

Rose: Ohio State v. Oregon
Sugar: South Carolina v. TCU
Fiesta: Oklahoma v. USF
Orange: Virginia Tech v. Nebraska

Fuck, something needs to be done about this BCS shit.

 

[Tlangs]

Let's assume the BCS standings end up where there are now..

your 7 guarenteed BCS participants are:

Oregon-Pac 10
Auburn-SEC
Wisky-Big 10
Nebraska or Oklahoma St-Big12
Va TEch-ACC
Pitt-Big East
TCU- Non AQ conf but in top 12

3 at large choices between the following 5 teams (I'm eliminating the loser of the Big 12 title game due to a second loss):

Ohio State
LSU
Boise St
Michigan State
Stanford

Question #1: Would the BCS have the cohones to leave out an undefeated Boise?

Question #2: Is the SEC guarenteed two spots based solely on their awesomness?

Question #3: Would Sparty even be in the discussion at 11-1?

I say you can cross off Sparty right of the bat. They just aren't going to get a bid. LSU will definitely get in due to their 11-1 record in the almighty SEC. That leaves 2 spots for OSU, Stanford, and Boise. Lets just say I hope Stanford or Boise/TCU lose one or we jump Wisky. It would be a tough pill to swallow to finish 11-1 and not make a BCS game.

 

[Steve19]

Let's assume the BCS standings end up where there are now..

your 7 guarenteed BCS participants are:

Oregon-Pac 10
Auburn-SEC
Wisky-Big 10
Nebraska or Oklahoma St-Big12
Va TEch-ACC
Pitt-Big East
TCU- Non AQ conf but in top 12

3 at large choices between the following 5 teams (I'm eliminating the loser of the Big 12 title game due to a second loss):

Ohio State
LSU
Boise St
Michigan State
Stanford

Question #1: Would the BCS have the cohones to leave out an undefeated Boise?

Question #2: Is the SEC guarenteed two spots based solely on their awesomness?

Question #3: Would Sparty even be in the discussion at 11-1?

I say you can cross off Sparty right of the bat. They just aren't going to get a bid. LSU will definitely get in due to their 11-1 record in the almighty SEC. That leaves 2 spots for OSU, Stanford, and Boise. Lets just say I hope Stanford or Boise/TCU lose one or we jump Wisky. It would be a tough pill to swallow to finish 11-1 and not make a BCS game.

This is the scenario that disappointed me so in the Wisky game thread. I'll feel better if one of these teams other than Sparty to lose.

I'd hate to say that I'd like to see TSUN beat Wisky. I'd rather think of it as the hand of Woody helping RichRod save his job if it happened, so that Tressel could even things up.

 

[buckeyesin07]

Let's assume the BCS standings end up where there are now..

your 7 guarenteed BCS participants are:

Oregon-Pac 10
Auburn-SEC
Wisky-Big 10
Nebraska or Oklahoma St-Big12
Va TEch-ACC
Pitt-Big East
TCU- Non AQ conf but in top 12

3 at large choices between the following 5 teams (I'm eliminating the loser of the Big 12 title game due to a second loss):

Ohio State
LSU
Boise St
Michigan State
Stanford

Question #1: Would the BCS have the cohones to leave out an undefeated Boise?

Question #2: Is the SEC guarenteed two spots based solely on their awesomness?

Question #3: Would Sparty even be in the discussion at 11-1?

I say you can cross off Sparty right of the bat. They just aren't going to get a bid. LSU will definitely get in due to their 11-1 record in the almighty SEC. That leaves 2 spots for OSU, Stanford, and Boise. Lets just say I hope Stanford or Boise/TCU lose one or we jump Wisky. It would be a tough pill to swallow to finish 11-1 and not make a BCS game.

Good post. I'd guess that OSU would get the nod over Stanford, as OSU would mean more money to the bowl making the choice, and although OSU's record would admittedly be without a marquee win, isn't Stanford's the same?

 

[SloopyHangOn]

I'm pretty sure that with the schedules still ahead of TCU and Boise that Boise jumps TCU in the polls and snags that Rose Bowl auto bid if they don't sneak into the title game.

 

[BB73]

Let's assume the BCS standings end up where there are now..

your 7 guarenteed BCS participants are:

Oregon-Pac 10
Auburn-SEC
Wisky-Big 10
Nebraska or Oklahoma St-Big12
Va TEch-ACC
Pitt-Big East
TCU- Non AQ conf but in top 12

3 at large choices between the following 5 teams (I'm eliminating the loser of the Big 12 title game due to a second loss):

Ohio State
LSU
Boise St
Michigan State
Stanford

Question #1: Would the BCS have the cohones to leave out an undefeated Boise?

Question #2: Is the SEC guarenteed two spots based solely on their awesomness?

Question #3: Would Sparty even be in the discussion at 11-1?

I say you can cross off Sparty right of the bat. They just aren't going to get a bid. LSU will definitely get in due to their 11-1 record in the almighty SEC. That leaves 2 spots for OSU, Stanford, and Boise. Lets just say I hope Stanford or Boise/TCU lose one or we jump Wisky. It would be a tough pill to swallow to finish 11-1 and not make a BCS game.

The selection sequence is important. The BCS doesn't look at the overall group of teams and select 3 of 4 - each bowl looks out for themselves. In your scenario:

1) Rose Bowl gets Wisconsin and TCU, without any options
2) Sugar gets to replace Auburn, and takes hometown SEC-team #5 LSU, and there's nothing wrong with them doing that.
3) Sugar then selects the first at-large pick. They take tOSU - the biggest name and fanbase available for tourism, ticket sales, and TV Ratings.
4) Then the Orange has to select an opponent for Va Tech - they won't select Boise State since the teams already played, so they take the Okie-State-Nebraska loser or Stanford.
5) Then the Fiesta is stuck with the Big East winner to face the Big XII champion - and they have no selection options.

In your scenario, it's all up to to which 3 teams the Sugar and Orange prefer, and LSU and Ohio State will be two of the three, assuming they each only have 1 loss. If the Sugar Bowl pulls a surprise and takes Boise State or Stanford to face LSU, the Orange would be doing cartwheels at the chance to take Ohio State, which hasn't been there since the late '70s.

So don't worry about tOSU being stiffed in the selection process - if the Buckeyes win their last two games, they'll be in a BCS Bowl.