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2009 TSUN News (football only discussion)

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mgoblog

At some point this year when Michigan is flailing about in a fashion reminiscent of well, last year, keep this image in mind and think "he's just a freshman" to yourself over and over again. Apparently Forcier spent 100% of his time getting quarterback tutoring and 0% of it picking things up and putting them down, which is all well and good until someone snaps him in half.

There not all in complete denial. Its too bad Brian likes scUM. Otherwise, I might like him.
 
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t_BuckeyeScott;1437436; said:
mgoblog

There not all in complete denial. Its too bad Brian likes scUM. Otherwise, I might like him.

I completely understand what you mean.

I also liked this gem:

Brian said:
Smith: quarkback. We got ourselves another kid who can do a credible impression of Paper Mario: 5'6", 158 pound Vincent Smith. Hopefully this one doesn't get concussed into oblivion.

:slappy: I love it.
 
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And for the delusional... (from the comments section)

Forcier should be OK for a few reasons.
First: if the offense is competent and unpredictable this year, opponents won't have direct angles to hit him as often as they would with a predictable offense.
Second: his mobility and shiftiness should allow him to further avoid direct contact.
Third: This probably matters the least of any of my reasons, but Anthony Carter, Jamie Morris, and BC's Doug Flutie were all small and managed to avoid a lot of injuries.
Being small does not guarantee injuries; I see it as neutral. McGuffie took too many direct hits last year because he wasn't smart enough to avoid them; he thought he was Superman and didn't realize that he wasn't until it was too late.
After the first concussion, he wasn't quick enough to avoid them anymore; after subsequent concussions, he was even less able to avoid them. That is why I wish he would have just taken a medical scholarship and gotten a degree.
Anyway, Forcier should be fine. If he isn't, Robinson could be the real deal and Sheridan could actually improve from last year to this year. I know he looked a lot more like Nicolette Sheridan last year, but he could have improved like most players do between their first and second years of seeing the field. If Sheridan is like he was last year, though, and has to play, UM is in big trouble.
I am hoping Forcier will be fine. I still think the Wolverines are in better shape at QB than OSUcks is with "Pryor and Prayer."

At least, the next guy (R Kelly) understands reality.

Exactly how are we in better shape at QB than OSU? You're delusional, they have a 6'6" freak athlete, with a year of experience under his belt coming back. We have Tate (please, please, please live up to our unrealistic expectations), Denard (a cornerback with a decent arm), and umm ya not even gonna go into further detail about that last option. Best case scenario is that the O-line makes drastic improvements, no injuries, and Tate has a season similar to what Colt McCoy had at Texas his freshman year, which I hate to say it, but is probably still not gonna be as good as Pryor's next year.
** please don't accuse me of being an OSU fan, I promise I'm really not; I'm just trying to be realistic.
 
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NFBuck;1437457; said:
That's their QB? Where's the rest of him? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

hey now, he is about the same size as Eric Crouch!

I was a big Nebraska fan back in the option days, Crouch looked no bigger than Tate and he was a stud
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I can definitely see the resemblance.

the fact that all of the spring talk is centering around how likely it is that their starting quarterback is going to get injured is pretty hilarious all by itself without the added hilarity of the crazy rationalizations about why the tater will be fine
 
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Buckeye86;1437467; said:
I can definitely see the resemblance.

the fact that all of the spring talk is centering around how likely it is that their starting quarterback is going to get injured is pretty hilarious all by itself without the added hilarity of the crazy rationalizations about why the tater will be fine

Eric Crouch Biography - Huskers.com?Nebraska Athletics Official Web Site

Height: 6'0"
Weight: 190 lbs.

*just supporting your sarcasm, 86. :wink:
 
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Before SlumsofWhoreSmell banned me, I addressed the very same "Forcier = Crouch" issue. Those clowns thought that Barwis would have him up to near-Crouch size by the season opener, saying it's "easy" for a kid his age to put on 25-30 pounds of muscle in six months.
 
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jwinslow;1437480; said:
Forcier has been committed to Michigan for over six months and on campus for three. I'm guessing they started trying to bulk him up awhile ago.

Bingo. If that's what he looks like after three months under the mighty Barwis' regimen, he'll be lucky to sniff 200 by the time he's a senior...
 
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From what I've seen, Coach Growl is actually pretty good at his job. A lot of the players do look better just over a year later. Problem is, he's only one piece of the puzzle.

A well-conditioned safety can still have terrible fundamentals, especially when the focus is on offense in practice (it will be interesting to see if new DC Robinson changes that).
A defensive tackle notorious for taking plays off can still do so even in better shape.
And a skinny true freshman can train for ten years with a professional qb coach and still be grossly undersized until his body matures, if that happens.

It became clear last season that Gittleson - the whipping boy on UM boards once Hermann moved on - was not the main problem.
 
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