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2009 TSUN arguments, shenanigans (not football)

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BB73;1590336; said:
As the season wears on, well-conditioned teams will have an advantage in the second half of Big Ten games. Here are the scoring totals for the second half of TSUN's last 3 games:

TSUN 0, Penn State 16
TSUN 0, Illinois 31
TSUN 12. Purdue 28

Total: TSUN 12, Opponents 75

BARWIS!!!!111!!!!1
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Rich Rodriguez must win in the Big Ten in ?10 | freep.com | Detroit Free Press-

He only can blame the players for failed execution for so long because each successive on-field embarrassment brings more intensive scrutiny on the schematics. Michigan has become a terrible second-half team and that speaks to a lack of game-time adjustments or possible fatigue from players pushed too far in pregame preparation. Counting on the offense to overwhelm the opposition isn?t exactly a recipe of national championship contention, particularly if it can?t get through a Big Ten schedule in which titles are still determined among those best equipped to smack the guy lining up across from them in the mouth.

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buckeyesin07;1590397; said:
[/michigan man]

Nothing to see here, folks. This totally can't be blamed on Barwis or RR. Carr left the cupboard bare. UM's losses will forever be his fault, not RR's or any of RR's staff.

[/michigan man]
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But I thought it was all Ty Willingham's fault? Wait......what team are we talking about again?:biggrin:
 
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Stadium & Main - Looking Ahead: 2010-11 Depth Chart (11/8)

See the link for the full prediction, but this part really stands out
Slot WR
9 Martavious Odoms: 5-9 172 JR - Pahokee, Fla. (Pahokee)
12 Roy Roundtree: 6-0 170 RS SO - Trotwood, Ohio (Trotwood-Madison)
19 Kelvin Grady: 5-9 168 RS JR - Grand Rapids, Mich. (East Grand Rapids)
10 Jeremy Gallon: 5-8 165 RS FR - Apopka, Fla. (Apopka)
7 Terrence Robinson: 5-9 171 RS SO - Klein, Texas (Oak)
30 Doug Rogan: 6-1 184 RS JR - Grass Lake, Mich. (Grass Lake)
26 Nick Koenigsknecht: 5-10 183 RS SR - Davisburg, Mich. (Orchard Lake St. Mary’s)
27 Jordan Owens: 5-9 170 RS FR - Alpharetta, Ga. (Alpharetta)
? Drew Dileo: 5-10 180 FR - Baton Rouge, La. (Parkview Baptist)
? Tony Drake: 5-8 165 FR - Dallas, Texas (Skyline)
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CB
6 Donovan Warren: 6-0 185 SR - Long Beach, Calif. (Polytechnic) ? Courtney Avery: 5’9 170 FR - Lexington, Ohio (Lexington)
? Terrence Talbott: 5’10 175 FR - Huber Heights, Ohio (Wayne)
19 Zac Johnson: 6-2 199 RS JR - Morenci, Mich. (Morenci)
17 Tony Anderson: 5-11 190 RS JR - Redondo Beach, Calif. (Redondo Union)


CB
29 Troy Woolfolk: 6-0 193 SR - Sugar Land, Texas (Dulles)
12 J.T. Floyd: 6-0 183 RS JR - Greenville, S.C. (J.L. Mann)
14 Teric Jones: 5-8 193 SO - Detroit, Mich. (Cass Technical)
42 Al Backey: 5-9 170 RS FR - Ypsilanti, Mich. (Ypsilanti)
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This imbalance was called out in the thread as well
trepps said:
Anyone else sickened by the fact that we currently project to have 7 slots on scholarship which is roughly the same as the number of scholarship CB's? This is what I don't understand about RR's recruiting to date. I realize we may still add a couple cb's but I just can't excuse all the schollys that went to WR's and slots this year.
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MM113 said:
That's 7 CBs if you count Woolfolk and Turner BOTH as CBs, which IMO, one is a FS.

I'm not sickened by it if it was 7 slots rangings from seniors to freshman. Because in RRod's offense there is usually more 2 outside WR, 2 slot formations, but because we had no slots and we had TEs, he's incorperated TEs more (as he should IMO).

My issue is that they're all freshman and sophomores for the most part. Do I think we'd be just fine with 5 slots ranging from seniors to freshman...yes. Those 2 extra scholarships should be defensive players. 7 CBs is fine, if they're true CBs, but I think Woolfolk, Turner and Floyd would each be better suited as safeties. Put Floyd at SS, Turner and Woolfolk at FS, and you've got a nice back line. Except now you have NO CBs.

This is why I keep saying, we need 3 MORE CBs in this class. It'll give us more flexibility at safety. I'm not suggest we'll start a true freshman or move everyone to safety, but now you have the depth to take say a Floyd and move him to SS. And Turner OR Woolfolk and move him to FS while the other one starts opposite Warren.

And Kovacs isn't terrible, he's actually really good in the box, but playing FS, he's just in no mans land. He needs to be a SS. Williams needs to be moved to Stevie Brown's position.

You don't move everyone "down" to increase speed, but it's clear as day that these positions would be the best fit for each of these players.
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ShoeLB50 said:
Defense is horrible, plain and simple. I blame the 3-3-5 defense: Its a horrible scheme that cant stop the run (or evidentally the pass this year) and Rich Rod handicaps us by being to stubborn to change. Unfortunatly for us I dont think its going to change so im going to go ahead and take a crack at the best roster to make it work.
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Joe Schad: Michigan AD Bill Martin asks for patience, slams defense - ESPN

Martin optimistic about future

Michigan Athletic Director Bill Martin on Wednesday asked for patience from his fans and reiterated his full support for coach Rich Rodriguez.

"Of course we're all concerned, but the message is simple: to have patience," Martin said. "Those who stay will be champions. That's what Bo [Schembechler] always said. I am all in for Rich Rodriguez. He will get the job done for us. He has assembled an excellent staff. He has got my full support."
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GTFO!

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