2009-2010 Ohio State Hockey Season

[jimotis4heisman]

2-2 Tie with the domers tonight. Not sure how much more if this season I can stomach.

season?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

We go down to NMU 0-1 last night. That's it! I'm done with Markell coached hockey for good. I thought that I couldn't witness a more pathetic example of poor coaching and player development, this side of Charlie Weis, than Ohio State's season a few back when we were pre-season #1 and promptly proceeded to curl into the fetal position for the entire season. This year is just as bad.

Once again, I'm watching young, highly sought after talent actually get worse in their second and third years. I'm watching them play with less cohesion and passion than they did as freshmen.

Bring on Paul Pooley. Yes, I know that he didn't do well in his first HC gig at Providence, but a lot of great coaches have stumbled the first time in the big chair. He's lit up the CCHA at Notre Dame and would have infinitely more resources at Ohio STate than he did at Providence. Won't you come home Paul Pooley!

If it gets me a 14 day ban so be it, but Markell has got to go because Markell guarantees continued stagnation and underachievement in this program.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Buckeyes down 2-3 in the 3rd. NMU breaking out the broom.

Meanwhile Fredo is on the verge of sweeping Michigan at Yost--something that I believe we have never done in the last dozen years.

 

[LitlBuck]

No broom but JM is on thin ice as far as I am concerned:(

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Hockey: Somma's late goal lifts Buckeyes
Sunday, November 8, 2009 4:19 AM

Sergio Somma scored with 1:32 left to cap Ohio State's rally from a two-goal deficit, and the Buckeyes edged Northern Michigan 5-4 last night in Value City Arena.

The Buckeyes trailed 2-0 after the first period and were down by one twice in the third. But Zac Dalpe tied the score at 4 off an assist from Somma, and the junior forward scored the winner at 17:28, his third goal of the season, as Ohio State improved to 3-6-1 overall and 2-3-1-1 in the Central Collegiate Hockey Association.

Northern Michigan (2-5-1, 1-3-0-0) scored in the first and last two minutes of the first period to take a 2-0 lead. John Albert and Peter Boyd answered for Ohio State in the second period, and the teams entered the third tied at 2.
The Wildcats took leads of 3-2 and 4-3 before the Buckeyes scored twice for the win.

Cal Heeter (3-1-1) stopped 18 of 22 shots for Ohio State, and Reid Ellingson (2-2-0) had 24 saves for Northern.

The Buckeyes outshot the Wildcats 29-22.

Ohio State plays host to Western Michigan in a CCHA series next Friday and Saturday in Value City Arena.

 

[BigWoof31]

Buckeyes down 2-3 in the 3rd. NMU breaking out the broom.

Meanwhile Fredo is on the verge of sweeping Michigan at Yost--something that I believe we have never done in the last dozen years.

Looks like Miami really roughed them up - winning 5-1.

ORD - I ask this not to taunt (because UGA doesn't even have a club team) but is Miami of Ohio now the team to beat in the division?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Looks like Miami really roughed them up - winning 5-1.

ORD - I ask this not to taunt (because UGA doesn't even have a club team) but is Miami of Ohio now the team to beat in the division?

Fredo is on a hell of a run, and they're certainly the team to beat this year in the CCHA if not nationally. A three year run, however, doesn't necessarily make them the dominant program in the CCHA. That's still UM and MSU.

It'll be interesting to see if Michigan makes a run at Fredo's coach when Berenson retires. Blasi is a Fredo alum, but you have to imagine that the Michigan job would intrigue him--all time top 5 program, best arena atmosphere in college hockey (and over twice the size of Fredo's little shoebox arena) and the resources of UM's athletic department.

If that happens, I can see Fredo head down the path that Bowling Green did when York left for a big time (BC) program. Even with a national championshipp BG didn't have the program stability or athletic department resources to sustain things and slipped back into mediocrity.

 

[BigWoof31]

It'll be interesting to see if Michigan makes a run at Fredo's coach when Berenson retires. Blasi is a Fredo alum, but you have to imagine that the Michigan job would intrigue him--all time top 5 program, best arena atmosphere in college hockey (and over twice the size of Fredo's little shoebox arena) and the resources of UM's athletic department.

If that happens, I can see Fredo head down the path that Bowling Green did when York left for a big time (BC) program. Even with a national championshipp BG didn't have the program stability or athletic department resources to sustain things and slipped back into mediocrity.

Certainly makes sense. I always wondered why smaller schools with limited resources just didn't go "all-in" on one specific program. The blueprint is there and it's worked for a lot of little schools.

Maine, Denver, UND, Vermont in Hockey
Gonzaga, Xavier in hoops
Boise in Football

Just to name a few - it seems like this would be the best way to generate revenue, recognition and titles.

But then - looking at the CCHA website - Lake Superior State did the same thing and they are floundering. So what do I know?

 

[jimotis4heisman]

Certainly makes sense. I always wondered why smaller schools with limited resources just didn't go "all-in" on one specific program. The blueprint is there and it's worked for a lot of little schools.

Maine, Denver, UND, Vermont in Hockey
Gonzaga, Xavier in hoops
Boise in Football

Just to name a few - it seems like this would be the best way to generate revenue, recognition and titles.

But then - looking at the CCHA website - Lake Superior State did the same thing and they are floundering. So what do I know?

those teams you mention are all "hockey hot beds" granted so is northern michigan (sault ste marie) yet ssm has the greyhounds of the ohl. something non of those other places have. in a town of 16k or so its pretty hard to have both. thats a tiny (seasonal-its a summer hot spot) town. given the choice between ccha and ohl. i go chl all day, every day. vastly superior hockey, even though the kids are younger. i will however mention that um does to some extent compete with the whalers (of plymouth, same owners as the hurricanes [the old whalers] franchise). yet one is in plymouth the other ann arbor, a decent ride, in a much larger metro area. further it has the um, maize and blue name plate to lash onto...

i agree with ord generally speaking though. um/msu, then und as far as hierarchy of tradition. bg certainly had a run, and still has a bunch of nhl players. miami is a hot team right now, yet not on the level of um or sparty.

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/
ohl website. ohl is one of the three major chl (jr) leagues in canada. along with the q (qmjhl) and whl. the chl produces the vast majority of nhl players.

 

[LitlBuck]

It'll be interesting to see if Ohio State makes a run at Fredo's coach when Markell leaves. .

FIFY :)

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

FIFY :)

While snatching that candy from those babies would warm my heart in no small measure:box:, I just can't see Blasi leaving Fredo for Ohio State. He's got too good of a thing going down there at ...of Ohio, and we'd need to open up the bank account in a way that I just don't see us doing in order to have the slightest shot.

Michigan is on another level than us when it comes to hockey in terms of tradition, resources, student support, arena atmosphere and in-state hockey culture. Plus, for all but the most kool-aid drinking Fredoites, leaving for Michigan would be understandable; whereas leaving for Ohio State would be seen as a slap in his alma mater's face.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Buckeyes took two from (last place) Western Michigan this past weekend. The key, however, will be to see if they can carry that momentum over to the next series against a much better Ferris State team followed by a Thanksgiving weekend game against traditional national power North Dakota.

Carryover, whether from a good season to the next or from a good weekend to the next...or even from a strong Friday showing to the next night's game has always been lacking in Markell coached teams. I'm very curious to see how the next three games pan out.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Buckeyes took two from (last place) Western Michigan this past weekend. The key, however, will be to see if they can carry that momentum over to the next series against a much better Ferris State team followed by a Thanksgiving weekend game against traditional national power North Dakota.

Carryover, whether from a good season to the next or from a good weekend to the next...or even from a strong Friday showing to the next night's game has always been lacking in Markell coached teams. I'm very curious to see how the next three games pan out.

And like a sick,dysfunctional watch: Ferris downs the Buckeyes 8-1.

Followed by a 5-6 loss on Saturday.

 

[brodybuck21]

And like a sick,dysfunctional watch: Ferris downs the Buckeyes 8-1.

Followed by a 5-6 loss on Saturday.

:(

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

This weekend--v. North Dakota on Friday and Bemidji State on Saturday--could be ugly.

The ND game will be on whatever regional Fox channel shows all the ND games. This Buckeye team did pull one out of their ass against Denver, so there is some glimmer of hope.

 

[Buckskin86]

Published November 27 2009
Buckeyes founder returns to roots at Holiday Classic
University of North Dakota associate professor John Vitton plans to sit in Ralph Engelstad Arena tonight and watch an Ohio State men?s hockey program that he built from scratch 53 years ago.
By: Brad E. Schlossman, Bemidji Pioneer

University of North Dakota associate professor John Vitton plans to sit in Ralph Engelstad Arena tonight and watch an Ohio State men?s hockey program that he built from scratch 53 years ago.

The program was his idea ? one that he came up with while sitting in a Columbus bar in 1955. He?s the one who found the players ? largely by flipping through the school?s directory and calling people from Canada or American hockey hot beds in hopes that they had played the game before. He scheduled the games and sought school support.

For eight years, the program was sustained through grassroot efforts. Vitton was the ringleader for the first two. The school began sponsoring the program in 1963.

By then, Vitton had been deployed as a member of the U.S. Air Force. But his efforts didn?t go ignored. An article that appeared in Hockey Magazine in 1964 ? a year after Ohio State started sponsoring the hockey program ? praised Vitton for his work.

?(He) contributed an astounding amount of time, effort and money to overcome such formidable obstacles as no college ice facilities, no financial support from the institution, no equipment, no coaching and nobody caring whether (Vitton) succeeded or not,? the article stated.

A much more evolved Ohio State program will visit Ralph Engelstad Arena for the first time ever this weekend as part of the Subway Holiday Classic. The Buckeyes will take on UND (7:37 tonight) and Bemidji State (4:07 p.m. Saturday).

Vitton, who grew up in Michigan?s upper peninsula and now works in the management department at UND, can recall nearly all of the details of the program?s beginning. He also has kept detailed records, including scheduling letters and newspaper articles.

He recalls how the first-ever club game in 1956 was delayed because Ohio State?s goalie didn?t have goalie pads. ?The Troy Bruin International League hockey team not only furnished the pads that allowed the game to commence, but also provided ice time without charge,? Vitton said.

He remembers wearing Ohio State football jerseys, provided by men?s basketball coach Floyd Stahl.

Vitton also recalls scoring the program?s first goal. ?Chuck Baillie and I rushed up the ice on a breakaway. He pulled the goalie over to the post and passed it to me. I had a wide open net. I could have put it in with a dustpan.?

Ohio State played four games during the first season and eight the next. The number of games gradually increased until the Buckeyes were playing 20 in 1966-67. They joined the Central Collegiate Hockey Association in the 1970s.

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