2008 TSUN News

[MililaniBuckeye]

Talk about having it both ways. Is Rodriguez such a good coach that he led West Virginia to a terrific record, outshining even mighty Michigan and mighty Ohio State*? Or is it because the Big Ten competition is worlds better than in the Big East? Pick one. It can't be both.



*also 33-5 but 1-2 in bowls. By this record-only logic, West Virginia is better than Ohio State.

WVU won bowl games against competition as good as or better than what Michigan faced.

 

[HailToMichigan]

WVU won bowl games against competition as good as or better than what Michigan faced.

I would argue that USC and the defending national champion with that year's Heisman winner are at least close enough to make the competition issue negligible. But that's OK. Good to know that the issue of the competition is settled to the tune of "doesn't matter, except for in the bowl games where RR won with a less-talented WVU team against better competition." Which is nice, because now I've got it on good authority that 11-1 is 11-1 no matter what, and if that's the case then the Rich Rodriguez era at Michigan will really be something I can look forward to.

 

[jwinslow]

Which is nice, because now I've got it on good authority that 11-1 is 11-1 no matter what, and if that's the case then the Rich Rodriguez era at Michigan will really be something I can look forward to.

Even if that 1 is to Tressel?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

because now I've got it on good authority that 11-1 is 11-1 no matter what, and if that's the case then the Rich Rodriguez era at Michigan will really be something I can look forward to.

Even if WVU got those 11-2 and 11-1 seasons against a shit conference?

 

[WyoBuckeye]

Ex-University of Michigan football player Rondell Biggs faces steroid possession charges - MLive.com

While that is not exactly a smoking gun, it is certainly a specter that nobody wants anywhere near their program. And I for one applaud the Michigan State Police on their fine work in apprehending this fellow and bringing that specter into the vicinity of the scUM football program.

 

[jwinslow]

While that is not exactly a smoking gun

nope, just an ugly lump for RR/Martin to deal with. If they take care of it cleanly, it should go away. If they let it fester, the negative recruiters will have a field day with it.

 

[NFBuck]

01-03: The "Big 3" are still in the conference, DR goes 20-17 overall and 13-8 in the conference.
04: Miami and VT leave, DR goes 8-4, 4-2 and loses to non-conference VT.
05-07: wvu is now clearly the giant in a conference of dwarves. This is also when DR gets his star players White and Slaton. They go 32-5, 17-4. They still lose to VT in '05. In this time, they lose both games to the only conference foe with a legit defense (USF) and are on the wrong end of a monumental choke job against his chief rival (sound familiar? *cough*Cooper*cough*).

Even with possibly the most perfect duo you could hope for his offense in White/Slaton and a pathetic conference, he still loses 2 games in that conference in both '06 and '07. Go watch some wvu games from those years. I watched several because they were on TV a lot and that offense was fun to watch. The man is not a good gameplanner, refuses or is unable to adapt under duress, and is very easily outcoached. All you have to do is smack that offense in the mouth and DR poops his pants. The Big-Ten is full of defenses that are more than capable of doing that. He'll beat up on the dregs of the conference, but I assure you, he will lose to the like of tOSU, PSU and Wiscy at least as much as, if not more than he wins.

I know that many will say that he'll get better athletes at um than he got at wvu, but the opposition will have better athletes than he faced in the Big East. And I'm not sold that he actually will recruit that much better. He hasn't thus far despite being a name coach at a premier university. His system is not NFL friendly and most top recruits may very well notice that.

 

[HailToMichigan]

Even if WVU got those 11-2 and 11-1 seasons against a shit conference?

Well, which is it then? Is WVU better than Michigan because of their record, or does the record not matter because of the conference? Pick one.

Most if not all of your fellow Buckeye fans (including and especially NF up there) choose option 2, so it sounds silly when you say WVU is better than Michigan because of the win-loss record.

 

[sandgk]

Well, which is it then? Is WVU better than Michigan

Easy, they both suck.

 

[Oh8ch]

Well, which is it then? Is WVU better than Michigan

They are now.

 

[osu_edu]

HECK, even Appalachian State is better than michigan.

:osu2:

osu.edu ROCKS!!!

 

[Oh8ch]

For those seriously interested in UM recruiting I found this to be an interesting and objective thread:

Scout.com: Projected Recruiting Class (in depth)

(Something akin to what the BPRT might do - but not the same quality.)

 

[GoodLifeSean]

You'd think they'd be pullin in more DBs considering there are 5 on the field in the DR defense... I mean he has produced a couple decent DBs... and Even more excellent felons

 

[NFBuck]

You'd think they'd be pullin in more DBs considering there are 5 on the field in the DR defense... I mean he has produced a couple decent DBs... and Even more excellent felons

They're not gonna run the 3-3-5 base.

 

[dman010101]

For those seriously interested in Morgan Trent I found this to be a hilarious and completely non-objective thread:

Scout.com: Morgan Trent

(Something akin to what xrayrandy might do - but not the same quality.)