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2008 tOSU Defense discussion (official thread)

MililaniBuckeye;1321310; said:
Over in the Penn State/Iowa game thread, several folks are sounding the alarm at the departure of Laurinaitis, Jenkins, Freeman, etc. I seem to remember a lot of those on this board shitting their pants over the graduation of Hawk, Carpenter, Schlegel, Whitner, and Salley and the early departure of Youboty after the 2005 season. IIRC, their replacements ended up being pretty good themselves and didn't miss a beat stepping right into the 2006 season. I for one am not all that worried about next year's defense...

The real question about next year's defense should be whether or not the d-line continues improving. I think it will.

We always have talent at LB and DB positions. I'm not worried about a DWash/Chekwa combination (pretty excited, actually), and we have so much talent at LB that it's kind of scary.
 
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3074326;1321320; said:
The real question about next year's defense should be whether or not the d-line continues improving. I think it will.

We always have talent at LB and DB positions. I'm not worried about a DWash/Chekwa combination (pretty excited, actually), and we have so much talent at LB that it's kind of scary.

I concur. I think the DL is going to be significantly better next year. I think we only lose Abdallah but Geobel will step into the rotation. We should be better at both DT and DE next year.

A healthy Andre Amos will really help out at CB. I really hope he can finally avoid the injury bug. We do need a couple of the younger DB's to step up and provide more depth though. One injury at CB could pose some problems.

At LB, the depth and talent is there. No worries whatsoever.

:osu:
 
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jwinslow;1321317; said:
Hopefully we have an 06-like offense to help tilt the scales again for the D.

The offense really didn't get clicking until the fifth game of the season (at Iowa), but our defense was solid from game two (we only allowed 12 points against Northern Illinois in the opener, but Garrett Wolfe was all over the place, so I don't count that as a solid effort). Bottom line, while our defense did benefit from our potent offense the second half of the season, it had to mostly stand on its own the first half of the season, which it did quite well, especially from having to replace as many starters as it did. I feel we won't have near the amount of problems that some think.
 
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I thought there was a noteworthy adjustment made for the game plan against Illinois this year. In 2007, the Illini would line up quickly to prevent the defensive substitution, look at the defense, await word from the OC in the press box on the play call after he's seen the defensive alignment, and thn run the play. During that process, the tOSU defense rarely shifted or tried to confuse Juice by moving around. It bothered me that Illinois was seemingly able to repeatedly make the play call they wanted after seeing the alignment, while the tOSU defense almost always stated in place.

This year, there were a lot of blitzes, including several from DBs (especially Moeller, which resulted in two turnovers). But not only did the defense blitz fairly often, on several plays there were LBs and DBs hedging near the line, acting like they were blitzing, but often they dropped back in coverage.

Illinois got a fair share of yards yesterday, but a lot of that was due to them breaking containment and simply breaking tackles. I think that the uncertainty about the what the defense was doing was a factor in the outcome of the game, and I was glad to see the shifting personnel and fake blitzes in the schemes.
 
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BB73;1329450; said:
Illinois got a fair share of yards yesterday, but a lot of that was due to them breaking containment and simply breaking tackles.

Yep. There were several times where we had The Juice inches from being sacked only for him to squirt free (get it?). Another instance was where that big WR/TE (Cumberland?) came around on an end-around and Heyward almost got him in the backfield while being blocked in the back, and subsequently Laurinaitis and Homan uncharacteristically missed tackles downfield.

If we can play the same style and level of defense against Michigan whose QB is noweher near as mobile as The Juice, it should be a turkey-shoot on blitzes.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1329465; said:
If we can play the same style and level of defense against Michigan whose QB is noweher near as mobile as The Juice, it should be a turkey-shoot on blitzes.

I expect Michigan to dump off a lot of short passes and try to establish the run game with Brown in order to avoid third and longs. We got to play the middle aggressively, keep contain and force turnovers. The key is to not let anyone slip a tackle and break for extra yardage.
 
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Yep. There were several times where we had The Juice inches from being sacked only for him to squirt free (get it?). Another instance was where that big WR/TE (Cumberland?) came around on an end-around and Heyward almost got him in the backfield while being blocked in the back, and subsequently Laurinaitis and Homan uncharacteristically missed tackles downfield.

If we can play the same style and level of defense against Michigan whose QB is noweher near as mobile as The Juice, it should be a turkey-shoot on blitzes.
the best cumberland story ever. he was at brookhaven, interviewed he was asked what he thought about the game. he responded"we scored more points than they did" he was then asked why they won the game "cuz we scored more points than the other team"

i dont want to bash a kid but it was clearly evident he grasped the key to the game but didnt understand a thing... he might wear orange and blue but is more of a gray and brown type of craynon...
 
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jimotis4heisman;1329583; said:
the best cumberland story ever. he was at brookhaven, interviewed he was asked what he thought about the game. he responded"we scored more points than they did" he was then asked why they won the game "cuz we scored more points than the other team"

i dont want to bash a kid but it was clearly evident he grasped the key to the game but didnt understand a thing... he might wear orange and blue but is more of a gray and brown type of craynon...

personally I love that response...maybe he's a BP fan :P
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1329465; said:
Yep. There were several times where we had The Juice inches from being sacked only for him to squirt free (get it?). Another instance was where that big WR/TE (Cumberland?) came around on an end-around and Heyward almost got him in the backfield while being blocked in the back, and subsequently Laurinaitis and Homan uncharacteristically missed tackles downfield.

If we can play the same style and level of defense against Michigan whose QB is noweher near as mobile as The Juice, it should be a turkey-shoot on blitzes.


True, but what do we do about the bowl game where we aren't playing a Div IAA team like TSUN?
 
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