2008 Ohio State Offense

[sparcboxbuck]

OK I don't want to think about next year but since it's a bye week I'll ask this...

NEXT YEAR- What would you like to see on offense.

1. What type of identity (IE. Signature plays etc, certain plays that are a staple in our offense that we do well)
2. Personnel Groups
3. Formations
4. Run/Pass Ratio

Call me Captian Obvious... but I'd like to see our offense put up 30+ points a game... and have two blowouts of B10+1 teams with excess of 40+ point wins. Nothing better than getting a :highfive: from my boys during the game!


Pretty clear why I'm a LAX fan and hate soccer, eh?

 

[osugrad21]

Dispatch

Rob Oller commentary: Tressel should hand off play-calling

Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:29 AM
By Rob Oller




Jim Tressel stares at his play card the way a starving man scans a menu. The Ohio State coach paces the sideline, wandering from the bench, focused on the play he wants his offense to run. His offense. Jim Bollman is listed as the offensive coordinator, and no doubt he has input, but someone has to sign off on that quarterback option from the shotgun formation. And that signature belongs to Tressel.
It is the same signature Tress scribbles into The Winners Manual during book signings. His worthy writings on how to live a winning life take a big-picture approach, focusing on team over self.
With that backdrop in mind, I wonder whether Tress shouldn't relinquish play-calling duties for the good of the team?
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[osugrad21]

Scout$--Tressel, Offense Weighing Changes

More discussion on JT's quotes about execution, personnel, playcalling etc...

 

[LitlBuck]

]Dispatch

I know this has been discussed but the writer makes a very good point. It is difficult for a person to have their mind on many things and be exceptionally good at one thing. JT signs off on every play but how much thought Kenny really give to that play when he is thinking about other situations or, if he can give the play that much thought, the other situations might suffer. I will not belabor this because I know it has been discussed often enough.

 

[ant80]

Dispatch

I know this has been discussed but the writer makes a very good point. It is difficult for a person to have their mind on many things and be exceptionally good at one thing. JT signs off on every play but how much thought Kenny really give to that play when he is thinking about other situations or, if he can give the play that much thought, the other situations might suffer. I will not belabor this because I know it has been discussed often enough.

I actually made the same point a little while back.

And why does JT still call plays? PC has relinquished his defensive coordinator duties because he doesn't want to stretch himself too much. Even Weis, with his enormous ego, and his "schematic advantage", has relinquished his play calling duties to concentrate more on his duties as a head coach, and to coach the offense. While taking on play calling duties may be necessary at a school like Youngstown state that doesn't have enough resources, it is neither necessary nor practical at Ohio State, which has more than enough resources to hire talented play callers/offensive coordinators. It seems to me that against USC, the first drive was planned beforehand. It was planned well in advance, that these are the plays that are going to be run in sequence, and that worked well. But after that, play calling was mediocre at best.

 

[OWUBuckeye51]

OK I don't want to think about next year but since it's a bye week I'll ask this...

NEXT YEAR- What would you like to see on offense.

1. What type of identity (IE. Signature plays etc, certain plays that are a staple in our offense that we do well)
2. Personnel Groups
3. Formations
4. Run/Pass Ratio

1) Depends on who comes back. I would love to see a variety of formations but a physical approach. Just because we run a "spread" doesn't mean we have to play passively offensively. I would like our offensive identity to be that we step on the throat of an opponent's defense as if we were a shark smelling blood in the water.

I would like to see us average 35+ ppg, and as sparcbox said, maybe paste a 50 spot on a few lesser teams. Every offensive possession, with the exception of kneels at the end of the game should be designed for 6, not 3 points.

I would like to see more misdirectional plays to keep a defense honest, and I would like to see some solid RT and RG play so that we aren't favoring one side of the line over the other.

2) Personnel Groups...not sure what you mean here.

3) Formations - I would like to see I (30%), pro set (20%), and 3-4-5 wides with 2, 1, or 0 backs (50%)...get the best personnel on the field. I know I am not at practice everyday, but assuming Beanie is gonesville, I think we have to get Boom and Zoom together on the field more than 50% of the time next year. Put Zoom at slotback, put Boom at half or I-back.

4) I think an ideal run pass ratio is a game by game decision and warranted by conditions like weather, wind, who has the hot hand, etc, but I sure would like to see a 50-50 split.

 

[osugrad21]

DDN

Tressel states obvious: Offense needs work


By Rusty Miller
Associated Press

Thursday, October 30, 2008

COLUMBUS ? After a second punchless showing by his offense, Ohio State coach Jim Tressel is taking shots from talk-show callers and letters to the editor for his supposed conservative play-calling.
Those detractors say Tressel isn't loosening the reins to allow the offense to do much. And their voices have grown louder since the offense hasn't scored a touchdown in two of the last three games for the 13th-ranked Buckeyes.
Tressel didn't do much to defend himself on Thursday, other than to say he and his coaching staff are using a bye week to try to figure out why the Buckeyes are so ineffective when they have the ball.
"This is not a session hoping for a support system ? you know, that we're just fine on offense," he said at a news conference. "Because we need to get better on offense. There's no question about it."
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[osugrad21]

Blade

October 31, 2008
For some reason, Ohio State has been unable to move ball
By MATT MARKEY
BLADE SPORTS WRITER
COLUMBUS - The current off week on the schedule has given the Ohio State football team time for an extended self-analysis, and some extra digestion of the recent 13-6 loss to Penn State that could very well cost the Buckeyes any chance at a fourth straight Big Ten title. Coach Jim Tressel, who pushes the buttons and calls the shots on the offensive side, admitted that some of the most central issues for his 7-2 team reside in that unit. With the Buckeyes going without an offensive touchdown in one-third of their games, that part was pretty simple. But Tressel did not want to heap the blame on any specific aspect of the offense, even though the offensive line has been frequently fingered as a likely culprit in the unexpected struggles, along with issues created by the change at quarterback from senior Todd Boeckman to freshman Terrelle Pryor. "I just think the inconsistency that we've had across the board offensively - not just up front - has lent itself to not being ecstatic about our offensive performance," Tressel said. The same Buckeyes that put up 45 points on the road against Michigan State a couple weeks ago, managed just a couple of three-point kicks in the 13-6 loss against Penn State in Ohio Stadium. That Michigan State score was inflated a few degrees by five Spartan turnovers and a pair of defensive touchdowns scored by the Buckeyes. Ohio State had 332 yards of offense in that game, just above its season average of 318 which ranks the Buckeyes 95th in the nation out of 119 Bowl Subdivision teams (formerly Division I-A). The only team in the Big Ten with worse offensive numbers is 2-6 Michigan, with 286.5 which is 111th nationally.
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[osugrad21]

BN$--Tressel Thursday Update: Offensive Woes Dominate Discussion

Continuation of the obvious observations of ineffectiveness with some deceased horse beating...

 

[osugrad21]

Dispatch

Tressel's call: He'll be final arbiter
Ohio State coach says he's open to input from assistants
Friday, October 31, 2008 3:04 AM
By Ken Gordon


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Jim Tressel might hear some different voices suggesting plays through his headset next season, but the final call will always come from his lips. The coach made that clear yesterday while discussing Ohio State's poor offensive performance this season, which has raised questions about whether Tressel should make changes on his staff and perhaps give up play-calling duties.
OSU is coming off a 13-6 loss to Penn State, its second loss of the season and its third game this year in which the offense failed to score a touchdown. The Buckeyes are ranked 95th nationally in total offense (67th in scoring).
Under Tressel, coming up with the game plan is a group effort. Determining what plays to call are, as well -- to a point.
Offensive coordinator and line coach Jim Bollman and quarterbacks coach Joe Daniels sit in the press box for games, and there is a constant back-and-forth with Tressel about what plays should be called.
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[MaxBuck]

BN$--Tressel Thursday Update: Offensive Woes Dominate Discussion

Continuation of the obvious observations of ineffectiveness with some deceased horse beating...

Well-stated.

 

[osugrad21]

Scout$--OSU Offense Still Looking For Consistency

Execution, missed assignments, etc..

 

[Bestbuck36]

I look for an MSU type explosion from our boys this weekend. I dont think the seniors have had their final say yet and the next 3 weeks are going to propel some of them up the draft boards. Look for Robo to go off at least 2 of the next 3 weeks and the defense to show up from whistle to whistle. If Pryor is on in the passing game we'll light up the next 3 opponents and the big boy bowls will come-a-callin.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

Link

Tressel would not need to look far for play-caller



November 6, 2008

MANSFIELD attorney John Allen has intimate knowledge of what Tresselball is all about. Lee Tresselball, anyway.
Allen spent two years as a student assistant coach on Lee Tressel's staff at Baldwin-Wallace College in the late 60s, learning at the foot of a Hall of Famer he's convinced was the mastermind behind the run-and-shoot, the precursor of what in football parlance is known today as the spread offense.
"He was considered one of the authors, if not the author of the run-and-shoot," Allen told me soon after Tressel's son, Jim, was hired as Ohio State's head coach in 2001.
It's hard to debate Jim Tressel's overall success at OSU - the 2002 national championship, the four Big Ten titles, the 6-1 record against Michigan and the three BCS bowl victories.

Continued.............

 

[cincibuck]

Tressel states obvious: Offense needs work


By Rusty Miller
Associated Press

Thursday, October 30, 2008

COLUMBUS ? After a second punchless showing by his offense, Ohio State coach Jim Tressel is taking shots from talk-show callers and letters to the editor for his supposed conservative play-calling.

This kind of statement always blows me away. If your line can't punch its way out of a tissue bag, how the hell are you going to find the time for wild ass plays? Case in point, ND and Quinn vs OSU, getting their ass handed to them in the first half because the line could not hold, Weiss went to 3-step drop and gave up the big plays. Case in point; OSU vs USC, no time for Boeckman to set up, the Bucks try and hit shorter passes and get Pryor involved.

This O-line just is not what I thought it would be and as a result the play calling has had to be conservative and hope that Pryor or Beanie can break something big. There's no Tedd Ginn to catch on a fly or post pattern or to open up the shorter passing game. JT is stuck hoping the D can keep it close enough for a big play or two, a fumble in the red zone or a defensive score. It's disappointing as hell, but it is what it is and unless there are two or three O - line studs I don't know about in the recruiting well, it's going to be an even longer year in 09.