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Kennesaw71
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Offense is self fixing now...What's left?
While Pryor should now be a fixture at QB, the Offense will be able to iron out the kinks leaving one major major problem. hint: IT'S NOT ON OFFENSE...
The defense has given up 41 points to Florida, 38 points to LSU, 35 points to USC. The Good Opponant's first quarter scoring was 24 of a total 114 points.
Good Opponents see that the Buckeye defense doesn't fake anything. If our linebackers step up, trust me, they are blitzing. Do our linemen have one set scheme? I think so.....push the guy down in front of you and kill the QB. Our corners are the fastest in the country yet they play 20 yards off the receivers. Is that supposed to fake them out somehow? Will those mightily fast sound of footsteps be a factor is making the receivers drop the ball?
I am just not catching on to our defensive game plan unless it is to hold our Good Opponants under 38 points. Wait a minute...ermmmmmm...when was the last time Ohio State's offense averaged close to 38 points?
Can anyone tell me what the game plan is?
While Pryor should now be a fixture at QB, the Offense will be able to iron out the kinks leaving one major major problem. hint: IT'S NOT ON OFFENSE...
The defense has given up 41 points to Florida, 38 points to LSU, 35 points to USC. The Good Opponant's first quarter scoring was 24 of a total 114 points.
Good Opponents see that the Buckeye defense doesn't fake anything. If our linebackers step up, trust me, they are blitzing. Do our linemen have one set scheme? I think so.....push the guy down in front of you and kill the QB. Our corners are the fastest in the country yet they play 20 yards off the receivers. Is that supposed to fake them out somehow? Will those mightily fast sound of footsteps be a factor is making the receivers drop the ball?
I am just not catching on to our defensive game plan unless it is to hold our Good Opponants under 38 points. Wait a minute...ermmmmmm...when was the last time Ohio State's offense averaged close to 38 points?
Can anyone tell me what the game plan is?
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crazybuckfan40
Head Coach
Kennesaw71;1271096; said:
I see that you only see what you want to see, so I am not going to bother...I have never seen a corner play 20 yards off...You did see the play where the USC fullback scored the td against Freeman that is because we were in press man across the board...You have seen plenty of times where the linebackers, safteties, etc. fake their blitzes and back off, plenty of times where DE drop into coverage, but you must miss all that because you haven't seen anything different...
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
jimotis4heisman;1271106; said:
Perception or lack of perception?
Yes, there's no denying that the D came out flat in the two NC games, and was maybe hamstrung by the gameplan (esp FL game), but overall, a VERY young D in '06 exceeded expectations, and the '07 didn't give up many points and I believe was #1 pass efficiency defense. (?)
This year's D will be just fine. Improve as we go.
Oh, and another thing you can count on - our opponenets will have fewer penalties called on them when playing us than in any other game they play all year. Another Big Ten tradition since 2002.
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jimotis4heisman
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well i stick by my statement. people see what they see and thats facts to them. now you can get into peopel see what they want to see and what not. but perception is reality to each man...
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OWUBuckeye51
is not receiving a bail out
NightmaresDad;1271125; said:
Flat in 2006...maybe. Flat in 2007 - no way. We just got beat by a better team.
If the 2006 squad shows up in the bowl game with the same voracity they had in the regular season, that game becomes a good one.
In the 2007 NC game - we showed up hyped as heck. But we weren't the better team.
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That's oversimplifying the situations that arose in those games. You cannot put the final score on a defense that is handed so many short fields and sudden-change situations. Likewise, you cannot ask the defense to carry the team when the offense and special teams so frequently fail to carry their share of the load.Kennesaw71;1271096; said:
USC - Ohio State had 13 possessions. Every single one began at the OSU 28 or behind. Southern Cal had 12 possessions. Only four of those were at their 28 or behind. Three of their TDs were on drives that started at the USC 35 or further up the field, and another was an INT return for a TD. Ohio State had 15 first downs and lead TOP, but five of those first downs and nearly nine minutes of clock were on the 2nd drive where they kicked a FG. OSU gained a grand total of 30 yards on offense in the second half.
LSU - Ohio State again had more possessions and even more total yards. LSU's first TD drive included covering 28 yards worth of the field on OSU penalties. Their second TD drive started at the LSU 34 following a blocked OSU FG. Their third TD drive started at the OSU 24 following an INT return. Fourth TD drive came following a roughing the punter penalty after initially getting the defensive stop, and was made easier with another free 15 yards on a personal foul - that's a defensive stand and punt wiped out with LSU getting 30 yards on penalties on consecutive plays. The fifth TD was setup with LSU starting at their own 47 following another INT.
UF - This is the easiest of all of them. Florida had five scoring drives (4 TDs, 1 FG, that's 31 of their 41 points) on drives that started at midfield or in OSU territory. OSU's offense mustered eight 1st downs, 82 yards of offense, 19 minutes TOP, and 2 turnovers. Ohio State's offense ran 37 plays. Florida's offense ran 80. If you give an Urban Meyer offense 80 plays, his team is going to score 40 points, and I'm not talking about just OSU. Since 2006, Florida has played 18 conference games versus those mighty SEC opponents and speedy SEC defenses. Florida has scored 21 points or more in 15 of them. They've hit 24 on the scoreboard in a full two-thirds of their conference games. So, for the sake of argument let's say OSU's defense is on par with top tier SEC defenses. There was a good shot UF would've scored 24 points anyway. Spotting them 17 points on possessions that started inside the OSU 40 was not a recipe for success.
Sure, the defense could play better in these games, but these were elite opponents that could all routinely hang 30+ on the best defenses in their own conferences. The story in all these games has not been the OSU defense getting blown off the field. It's been seeing guys like Ricky Jean-Francois and Derrick Harvey and Everson Griffen in the OSU backfield every other play wreaking havoc.
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