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2008 Buckeye Football Season

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You have to look at what he said. He said the most "talented" team. Who was the last Buckeye squad who will have quite possibly 3 players taken in the top 10 of the 2009 draft. If other players progress maybe one of two more in the late first and early second. If you're arguing "best team" lets wait and see for that debate.
 
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You have to look at what he said. He said the most "talented" team. Who was the last Buckeye squad who will have quite possibly 3 players taken in the top 10 of the 2009 draft. If other players progress maybe one of two more in the late first and early second. If you're arguing "best team" lets wait and see for that debate.
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You want to measure by total draft picks: 2003 team set an NFL record with 13 players drafted in 8 rounds iirc.

1st round draft picks in one year: 1971 with 4 picks and only 26 teams picking.

1996 NFL draft (1995 team) had 3 OSU players in the top 14.

1997 Draft (1996 team) had the overall #1 and #3 picks.

If you want one that will never be beaten and shows great insight into what a talented team it was: 1973 heisman balloting OSU OT John Hicks was #2, Archie was #5 and Gradishar #6.


I'm not saying this current 2008 team isn't very good but when a school has a history like OSU its very difficult to get into GOAT/most talented of all time or any other like discussions untill they have completed their chapter in the book. Projected NFL draft rankings a full year out are subjective at best.
 
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Just playing devil's advocate here but this class will have a legitmate claim based on at least one thing.

  1. Boeckman
  2. C Wells
  3. M Wells?
  4. Nicol
  5. Person
  6. Rehring
  7. Boone
  8. Abdallah?
  9. Wilson
  10. Freeman
  11. Laurinitis
  12. Terry?
  13. Jenkins
  14. Oneal?
  15. Pretorious?
  1. D Washington
  2. T Gibson
  3. Rose
Now clearly not all the guys I listed are likely to get drafted or even go pro, but this team has the potential to break the 14 pick record. That is also not lost on the juniors that I talked to. At least one of whom told me there may be quite a few early departures after this season.
 
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Jaxbuck;1142785; said:
You want to measure by total draft picks: 2003 team set an NFL record with 13 players drafted in 8 rounds iirc.

1st round draft picks in one year: 1971 with 4 picks and only 26 teams picking.

1996 NFL draft (1995 team) had 3 OSU players in the top 14.

1997 Draft (1996 team) had the overall #1 and #3 picks.

If you want one that will never be beaten and shows great insight into what a talented team it was: 1973 heisman balloting OSU OT John Hicks was #2, Archie was #5 and Gradishar #6.


I'm not saying this current 2008 team isn't very good but when a school has a history like OSU its very difficult to get into GOAT/most talented of all time or any other like discussions untill they have completed their chapter in the book. Projected NFL draft rankings a full year out are subjective at best.
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Thats good stuff!!! Can't wait to see what this team can do!!!
 
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ESPN - Deep, balanced Buckeyes hope third time's the charm - College Football
ESPN.com said:
Deep, balanced Buckeyes hope third time's the charm

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Just this once, Ohio State coach Jim Tressel will be happy to forgive linebacker James Laurinaitis and cornerback Malcolm Jenkins for disobeying his orders.

It has been Tressel's long-standing rule that first-round prospects should leave early for the NFL. Laurinaitis was assured of being a top pick in the draft this year, and Jenkins likely would have been, too. But both defensive stars bypassed millions to hang out with their college buddies a little longer.

This made the coaching staff's work much easier this spring. With the Butkus Award winner and the Thorpe Award candidate already in place, along with a viable Heisman Trophy contender at tailback in Chris "Beanie" Wells, the biggest question during spring practice has become, "Who is going to play fullback?" Nearly every other position has already been settled.

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Expectations

The 2008 edition of the Ohio State Buckeyes face higher expectations than either of the last two teams to don the scarlet and gray. Few people apart from the regular denizens of this board recall that most people expected 2007 to be a rebuilding year for the Buckeyes. Fewer still recall that the 2006 team replaced all but two defensive starters and the performance of that team was well above expectations on that side of the ball.

One of the reasons for the high expectations is the number of starters returning. As the university has recorded the starters since 1960, I can safely say that if any team had as many returning starters as this team; they were a huge disappointment.

I checked the # of returning starters of all the teams that are generally considered great; and I checked the # of returning starters of each of the last 3 teams. I tried to take into consideration all cases where someone was a returning starter, but in a different position. I may have missed one here or there. I also gave Troy Smith credit for being a returning starter in '05, even though the university officially cites Zwick as the starter for '04.
  • 1961 - Undefeated (The academicians voted to decline the invitation to the Rose Bowl)
    • 10 returning starters
    • 5 offense
    • 5 defense
  • 1968 - National Champions (Super Sophomores probably supplanted some returning starters)
    • 9 returning starters
    • 5 offense
    • 4 defense
  • 1969 - Woody once referred to them as his best ever
    • 15 returning starters
    • 7 offense
    • 8 defense
  • 1973 - Woody once referred to them as his best ever
    • 14 returning starters
    • 7 offense
    • 7 defense
  • 1998 - Most of you remember this one (too well)
    • 16 returning starters
    • 9 offense
    • 7 defense
  • 2002- National Champions
    • 11 returning starters
    • 4 offense
    • 7 defense
  • 2005 - Two losses (to #1 and #3)
    • 16 returning starters
    • 6 offense
    • 9 defense
  • 2006 - We were supposed to rebuild on defense
    • 8 returning starters
    • 6 offense
    • 2 defense
  • 2007 - Definitely seen as a rebuilding year
    • 11 returning starters
    • 4 offense
    • 7 defense
This leaves us with:
  • 2008 - Results TBD
    • 18 returning starters
    • 9 offense
    • 9 defense
Not all teams with as many returning starters can objectively expect great things because returning starters are not all equal (think Purdue a few years ago). But a team that outgained their opponent in the National Championship Game that returns this many starters has every right to expect nothing less than Crystal.
 
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I'd have put the 2003 team on that list, off the top of my head they returned

10 on offense (no MoC)
8 on defense(lost Peterson, Doss, Nickey and Wilhelm)

They also had every single draft eligible JR stay an extra year (Will Smith and Gamble being the biggest names)

That team only lost 2 games and played the entire year with zero threat of a run game. People often forget that if they beat scUM in The Game '03 OSU would have played OU in the Sugar Bowl for the BCS NC, not LSU.
 
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Using the same method that I used for the other teams:

  • 2003
    • 13 returning starters
    • 7 offense
    • 6 defense
My method was to compare the starters listed by the university for each year. This may leave out some guys with starting experience for all of the above teams (Lawrence Wilson and Curtis Terry to name two).
 
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