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2007 TSUN News

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HailToMichigan;948497; said:
Don't know where either Sniper or I said Michigan wouldn't "miss a beat". I said we'd still have a running game that would be "just fine"....which I even qualified by saying it would not be just as good as this year's.
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Fair enough.

Nobody's saying the UM offense won't miss a beat. Both Sniper and I are saying that with next year's crop of tailbacks, and with Michigan's propensity to field a quality offensive line, there will be a decent running game. I think there are some around here who'd rather not believe it.
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Well, I think that a lot of the failure to understand around here is that Michigan's greatest thing coming in to this season was the return of CH, MH, MM and JL. All of them are gone after this year (I'm assuming MM goes) and while I would never think anyone around here expects Mich to be the new ND, I think it's fair for "us" to rib you guys as it goes towards expectations.

I guess what I mean is, if you're banking on "next years crop" of TBs (which I take to mean guys not even on campus yet) I think you're in serious trouble with the running game. Serviceable running game? Yeah, probably... it'll depend on Mallet, in many respects... and if Matthews can be the #1 WR guy.... some just can't handle it (Steve Breaston being an example, if you ask me).
 
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Originally Posted by tsteele316
if grady hadn't torn his ACL, mike hart wouldn't have gotten run into the ground the last two years.


Fixed it.
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no, you didn't. grady tearing his ACL this past spring has nothing to do with hart getting run into the ground the past 2 years when grady was fully healthy in '05 and '06. try again.
 
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osugrad21;948505; said:
Michigan will be fine at all positions...if Manningham leaves, McGuffie will need to step up as the potential gamebreaker. Otherwise, Matthews and Hemingway are not going to put a scare into many defenses.

Michigan needs more of an attitude adjustment than a talent adjustment.

That is coming soon.
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Maybe they should practice from time to time.... and I mean practice like men... If you know what I mean.
 
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tsteele316;948503; said:
actually, i worded that poorly upon further review. it should have read, provided saine could have stayed healthy, he could have eclipsed grady over the remaining 9 games.
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That's fairer....though technically, he'd be 4.5 yards shy :tongue2:

(28 carries in 3 games = 121 carries in 13....5.5 ypc = 665.5 yds., in case you're wondering where I got the math from)

I guess what I mean is, if you're banking on "next years crop" of TBs (which I take to mean guys not even on campus yet) I think you're in serious trouble with the running game. Serviceable running game? Yeah, probably... it'll depend on Mallet, in many respects... and if Matthews can be the #1 WR guy.... some just can't handle it (Steve Breaston being an example, if you ask me).
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"Next year's crop" actually only means one guy not there yet - McGuffie. Brown, Minor, and Grady are the other ones, and my money would be on Minor to earn the starting job with Grady as the fullback, only with plenty of carries. If Grady can stay healthy, he's a beast, but he's only been injury-free for one year (2005) so that's a concern, and coming off ACL surgery is hard.

As for Mathews and the WR corps.....really, that's where I would expect you Buckeye fans to be ragging on us, because nobody's proven if Manningham doesn't come back. There's reason to think they'll turn out OK, that someone will step up (Darryl Stonum certainly thinks so, as he's already said he intends to earn the right to wear the #1, so I suppose lack of confidence is not an issue) but there are far fewer game-tested options at WR than at RB.
 
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tsteele316;948509; said:
Originally Posted by tsteele316
if grady hadn't torn his ACL, mike hart wouldn't have gotten run into the ground the last two years.





no, you didn't. grady tearing his ACL this past spring has nothing to do with hart getting run into the ground the past 2 years when grady was fully healthy in '05 and '06. try again.
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:lol:

Hart carried 150 times in 8 games in 2005, which is not even 19 carries per game. And Grady was not fully healthy in 2006, he missed four games and battled ankle problems all year. Hart, meanwhile, carried 24 times per game. How does 18.8 and 24.4 carries per game qualify as "running him into the ground"??? You guys better be careful with poor Beanie, what with his 19.2 carries per game :lol:
 
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SNIPER26;897579; said:
And James Laurinaitis takes some crappy angles for a linebacker, yet everyone still trumpets him as All-Jesus status. I'll take my odds with Jamar Adams. If our starting D sets up like this: Jamison-Taylor-Johnson-Graham, Crable-Thompson-C. Graham/Mouton, Warren/Trent/Sears/Williams and Adams/Brown at safety, I'll take my chances. Our D may not be as good as yours, but I'll take my odds. They don't have to be great, they have to be good enough.
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OK so your exact words werent "wont miss a beat"...Amazingly enough I didn't even need any Phonics...your own posts were enough.

A quick glance through your posting history shows the same old tired pattern. Use generalities to make a point then fall back to specifics "show me where I said exactly thus" to defend when attacked.

Your main theme is always that tsun will replace whomever and still be ok when the on the field results are showing something quite different.
 
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HailToMichigan;948524; said:
Hart carried 150 times in 8 games in 2005, which is not even 19 carries per game. And Grady was not fully healthy in 2006, he missed four games and battled ankle problems all year. Hart, meanwhile, carried 24 times per game. How does 18.8 and 24.4 carries per game qualify as "running him into the ground"??? You guys better be careful with poor Beanie, what with his 19.2 carries per game :lol:
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OK, now you're just taking shots because you're jealous you don't have a RB that sounds as imposing and masculine as "Beanie." :biggrin:
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;948517; said:
The times I've seen Grady, I must say I've not been that impressed. Of course, I have no doubt you watch more Michigan football than I do. I don't think I've ever seen Brown or Minor carry the ball, so I can't say.
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Between Brown and Minor, I prefer Minor - he averaged 5.7 ypc last year and he's got good acceleration. Brown shows some flashes but he's so inconsistent.
 
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HailToMichigan;948534; said:
Between Brown and Minor, I prefer Minor - he averaged 5.7 ypc last year and he's got good acceleration. Brown shows some flashes but he's so inconsistent.
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So, if you're right about Brown, and I'm right about Grady, it's down to Minor and McGuffie. Banking on a Frosh aint sound, so it's really down to Minor. Why zero carries v. NU (Seriously, I don't have any idea)? (I notice he's at 4.2 YPC this year)
 
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HailToMichigan;948506; said:
I'm having fun :biggrin:


Didn't say you were wrong to be excited. But if Wells and Saine can be the next Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams before Saine even suits up, surely McGuffie can be, I dunno, the next Biakabutuka or Perry, at least?
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Again, Saine has suited up and proven himself at the I-A level...McGuffie has not.
 
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HailToMichigan;948524; said:
:lol:

Hart carried 150 times in 8 games in 2005, which is not even 19 carries per game. And Grady was not fully healthy in 2006, he missed four games and battled ankle problems all year. Hart, meanwhile, carried 24 times per game. How does 18.8 and 24.4 carries per game qualify as "running him into the ground"??? You guys better be careful with poor Beanie, what with his 19.2 carries per game :lol:
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so, he couldn't stay healthy for 19 carries per game in '05, so the result is to run him 24 times per game in '06, when grady played in the first 8 or so games? try again.
 
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Dryden;948529; said:
OK, now you're just taking shots because you're jealous you don't have a RB that sounds as imposing and masculine as "Beanie." :biggrin:
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Psshh.....we don't need to have an imposing and masculine Beanie....we have this....
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;948537; said:
Why zero carries v. NU (Seriously, I don't have any idea)? (I notice he's at 4.2 YPC this year)
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:confused: :confused: :confused:

Your guess is as good as mine. I don't think it's particularly wise not to use him.

so, he couldn't stay healthy for 19 carries per game in '05, so the result is to run him 24 times per game in '06, when grady played in the first 8 or so games? try again.
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After which, Hart has not been injured again. Despite his carries going ever upward. You make so little sense it's not even funny.
 
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