2007 TSUN News

[jwinslow]

Scout $

Okl CB David Gordon selects Arkansas over UM, LSU, OU, etc.

All the comments that Boone won't be a first round draft pick are insane enough. The guy would have been a first round draft pick LAST year.

There were some very debatable first round choices last year... but Boone has no shot

 

[NFBuck]

Scout $

Okl CB David Gordon selects Arkansas over UM, LSU, OU, etc.

I don't know how high scUM was on this guy's list, but they can't seem to draw anybody defensively. I know how um fans love to tout DickRod's success with lower rated recruits at wvu (ignoring the fact that he played in the Big East), but that really only holds water (somewhat) in relation to his offensive system. Defensively, to survive in the Big-10, you need to recruit quality players. Who do they realistically have a shot with this year that could be considered a top-flight recruit on the defensive side of the ball? I don't know of anybody that they're the clear-cut leader for. Rant and rave all they want about his offensive innovations, if he can't field an at least decent defensive team, there are gonna be a lot of lumps in the years ahead.

There were some very debatable first round choices last year... but Boone has no shot

Every fanbase has their cross section of dillusional fans that typically inhabit the scout boards, but the um contingent has really gone off the deep end since last November. I literally found myself laughing out loud a handful of times reading that thread. "powerlifta" over there actually said Javon Ringer is a better back than Beanie. Honestly, if you're ever in a foul mood and need a good laugh, go read the m*ch*g*n scout board. Pure comedy.

 

[3074326]

That thread pissed me off. Somehow I wonder if these people actually watch football.

 

[NFBuck]

That thread pissed me off. Somehow I wonder if these people actually watch football.

I'm sure they do, just 7 years of having your ass handed to you by your biggest rival really clouds your judgement and perception. No reason to get pissed, just laugh and roll your eyes at their sheer ignorance and take comfort that they are reliving what we did in the 90's.

 

[jwinslow]

No reason to get [censored]ed, just laugh and roll your eyes at their sheer ignorance and take comfort that they are reliving what we did in the 90's.

Reliving the 90s would involve a lot more title berths squandered to a lot less talented rival teams.

 

[NFBuck]

Reliving the 90s would involve a lot more title berths squandered to a lot less talented rival teams.

True...but it's still gotta hurt. Especially considering tOSU has consitantly reached heights much higher than the '90s scUM teams did...barring '97.:)

 

[Rich_Rodriguez]

There are so many supremely ignorant and ridiculous posts in this thread (gotta love the scout boards!) that it defies explanation. It's hard to pick a favorite, but I'm sure it would be by "powerlifta" who starts chiming in on page 3. Seriously, read this dude's posts, just be sure you're strapped into your chair, because I challenge anyone to find a more retarded series of posts anywhere.

Scout.com: 2008 tUOS vs 2006 UM

Holy crap! These folks are my fans? This don't look good, nope nope nope. Don't suppose you all could talk start some sort of petition or something to get that Cooper guy back could ya? Would really help me out, and just because I am a fair guy, I will give you all free "hairclub for men" memberships.

 

[OCBucksFan]

I'm sure they do, just 7 years of having your ass handed to you by your biggest rival really clouds your judgement and perception. No reason to get pissed, just laugh and roll your eyes at their sheer ignorance and take comfort that they are reliving what we did in the 90's.

Exactly, they are dealing with the frustration that we dealt with. And the fanbase is making excuses. If that pisses you off, just think about what it's doing to them. And if you ever even consider feeling bad for them, remember their players saying "We don't even consider it a rivalry, they are just Ohio to us, our Rivals are the Spartans."

Fuck Michigan!

 

[generaladm]

There are so many supremely ignorant and ridiculous posts in this thread (gotta love the scout boards!) that it defies explanation. It's hard to pick a favorite, but I'm sure it would be by "powerlifta" who starts chiming in on page 3. Seriously, read this dude's posts, just be sure you're strapped into your chair, because I challenge anyone to find a more retarded series of posts anywhere.

Scout.com: 2008 tUOS vs 2006 UM

That was supremely entertaining. Like I said about the USC fans on their thread, I hope the UM players have the same ignorant misconceptions. It's obvious that the posters on that board are like most UM fans, they don't watch any non-UM games, and they turn of the TV once UM goes down by two scores. Even the more sensible ones were way off in their analysis. The claim that Ginn/Gonzo are head and shoulders above Robo/Hartline pretty much falls apart when you look up the stats and find that in 06/07, the duos combined for the same # of TDs, and the Brians had a slight advantage in yardage. Likewise, the notion that Boeckman is the worst OSU QB in recent memory doesn't make sense when you take into account that TB led the conference in pass efficiency and completion percentage. The Manningham vs. Robo debate was amusing as well. Anyone who thinks MM was an elite receiver must have only watched the MSU, PSU, and ND games. UM hasn't had a clutch receiver in years. MM may have not dropped as many crucial passes as Edwards did in his career, but that isn't saying much. Also hilarious was several poster's assertion that Freeman is overrated. This is the first time that I've heard anyone say that he is not underrated. Freeman is definitely a victim of the Bobby Carpenter syndrome. If he were not playing alongside Laurinaitis, he would be considered one of the top LBs in the country.

And powerlifta11 stole the show. (incidentally, unless the #11 has some significance, wouldn't you give up on the powerlifta moniker after powerlifta1?) Did you notice how after his first salvo of OSU bashing bullshit, he tried to backtrack by claiming to respect the program, only to come back with the ridiculous Beanie bashing posts? Sounds like some bi-polar shit to me. And then there was the attempt to cite a majority of "professional organizations on the web" that agree with him. Too bad that wasn't true. I especially enjoyed the argument that Beanie is "a better NFL type back not necessarily a better college back"(sic). When has that ever been true? I can think of a lot of RBs who were good college backs, but a bust in the show (R. Dayne, R. Wiliams, A. Thomas, C. Perry, soon to be M. Hart), but better in the pros than in college? Can someone supply an example?

Thank you, NFBuck.

 

[Muck]

I can think of a lot of RBs who were good college backs, but a bust in the show (R. Dayne, R. Wiliams, A. Thomas, C. Perry, soon to be M. Hart), but better in the pros than in college? Can someone supply an example?

Brandon Jacobs
Priest Holmes
Franco Harris
Terrell Davis

 

[leroyjenkins]

Brandon Jacobs
Priest Holmes
Franco Harris
Terrell Davis

"Fast" Willie Parker

 

[3074326]

I'm sure they do, just 7 years of having your ass handed to you by your biggest rival really clouds your judgement and perception. No reason to get pissed, just laugh and roll your eyes at their sheer ignorance and take comfort that they are reliving what we did in the 90's.

People that stupid just piss me off. If I can't see someone's view on something, I generally get mad at them. I'm a reasonable person; me not being able to see their view usually means that it's completely absurd and insulting to me. :tongue2:

 

[LightningRod]

Latest from UM's pom-pom boy

Michigan football analyst Jim Brandstatter spoke with WXYT-FM (97.1) recently. Some highlights:

Over or under seven wins for Michigan in the fall:



?I think over. See, here?s the thing. Call me pie in the sky, call me maize and blue glasses, call me whatever you want to call me. Yeah, they lost Chad Henne. Yeah, they lost Jake Long. Yeah, they lost Mike Hart. But defensively, they?re pretty good. They didn?t lose a lot of guys defensively. They?ve got guys that can fill in for the (Shawn) Crables and the Jamar Adams, the guys that they did lose. I?m telling you, defensively, I think they?re going to be pretty good. Early in the season defensively, they?re going to have to win a few games before that offense finds its way and fits in some of these young freshmen that I know Rich Rodriguez wants to use. Once they get it offensively and once a quarterback is established that can manage the offense ? he?s not going to be a key part of it like a Pat White was at West Virginia, but he?ll be a guy that can manage it, get it to his playmakers in positions for them to make plays ? I think this offense is going to be a difficult test. I think they?re going to be a tough out after game four and game five. But the defense may have to carry them early until the offense shows up.?

cont'd

 

[LightningRod]

A different perspective on the Rodster.

The loss to Pittsburgh last fall that cost Rodriguez and West Virginia a spot in the national title game is the turning point in this sad story, because there is no doubt in our mind that if West Virginia had beat the Panthers, Rodriguez would still be working in Morgantown right now. Watching the West Virginia-Pittsburgh game is like watching an old episode of the Twilight Zone, because the WVU team that showed up that night looked like a totally different team than the one that had played the rest of the '07 season. It is obvious from the kick-off of the game against Pitt that West Virginia was extremely tight, and there is only one person at WVU that could have impacted the team to such a degree that they could barely execute a snap from center, and that man is Rich Rodriguez. Why would one of the most dominant teams in college football in the '07 season, be so tight against a team in Pitt that arrived in Morgantown with a 4-7 record? What could have possibly led to the chaos of the Pitt game that as we watch it now, looks to us like some the West Virginia players were actually getting a kick out of watching Rodriguez meltdown on the sideline? There is always a reason that a team plays in a certain way, and watching Rodriguez in the Pitt game, Rodriguez strikes us as someone that is worried how a loss to Pitt will effect Rich Rodriguez, rather than how it will effect the West Virginia football program. That observation, along with watching Rodriguez operate in the last couple of years, explains everything that happened between the WVU loss to Pitt and Rodriguez and Michigan agreeing to pay the entire $4 million dollar buyout last week. It is now very obvious that this entire West Virginia buyout debacle wasn't about principle, or even a disagreement between the two parties. This entire thing was about Rich Rodriguez, because everything in Rich Rodriguez's life is about Rich Rodriguez. It is very easy to pick out a narcissist in today's world, by the way they talk about themselves and how they believe that things that happen in the world are all related to whether it either helps or hurts their life. American Heritage defines a narcissist as: "A psychological condition characterized by self-preoccupation, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem." Is there a better definition of Rodriguez's behavior in the last couple of years at West Virginia that that definition of a narcissist? Not in our mind, and we have no doubt that if Rodriguez continues this behavior it will be his undoing on the much larger stage that is Michigan football. If you don't believe that Rich Rodriguez exhibits narcissist behavior, just listen to Rodriguez in a press conference or when he is talking to reporters and notice how many times he says "I" instead of "team," and "me" and "my players" instead of "our team." Rodriguez talks about himself all of the time and in our opinion we believe that he has shown by his actions in the past 7 months that he really does not care how his behavior has affected his alma mater in West Virginia, or even his new employer in Michigan for that matter.

One interesting story that we would like to relate is from the Fiesta Bowl from this past January, when Bill Stewart had an opportunity to coach and field a West Virginia team that was not under the influence of Rodriguez. We had an opportunity to see the West Virginia players up close on the sidelines in the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma, and they looked and acted like a totally different team from what we experienced and saw when Rodriguez was still the head coach. Anyone that watched the Fiesta Bowl and saw how well the West Virginia players reacted to Rodriguez's departure and their opponent in Oklahoma, certainly left that game thinking that something was going on within the WVU football program when Rodriguez was the head coach.

 

[ant80]

[censored] Michigan!

Are you [censored]ing kidding me? You never censor anything about scUM. Say it like you mean it. Say it like it means everything. Say it like it is true. Say it like a Buckeye. And be proud that you will never be a hypocrite like one of them.

[censored] scUM!!!

edit: Unbeleivable!!! Now I understand its not your fault. Our own BP has censored us from stating our true feelings about scUM. :(