2007 TSUN News

[DaddyBigBucks]

Isn't it possible that he mumbled a schnott quiteldy plea so that the trial would delay his impending incarceration until after football season? It seems unlikely, but I'm trying to think of reasons why a guy in his situation wouldn't "cop a plea".

 

[Jaxbuck]

Isn't it possible that he mumbled a schnott quiteldy plea so that the trial would delay his impending incarceration until after football season? It seems unlikely, but I'm trying to think of reasons why a guy in his situation wouldn't "cop a plea".

Probably getting pro bono advice from Dick Rod's lawyers.

 

[HailToMichigan]

RR appears to still not quite have a firm grasp of this whole law thing.

The matter will be handled by the fucking DA Rich. You'll get a chance to make him sit out the first series against Utah when and if they say he's free to go.

It must take a truly special hatred of a man to turn a completely innocuous cliche around into a burning, fire-breathing criticism.

 

[NFBuck]

It must take a truly special hatred of a man to turn a completely innocuous cliche around into a burning, fire-breathing criticism.

What can we say? He makes it easy...

 

[Jaxbuck]

It must take a truly special hatred of a man to turn a completely innocuous cliche around into a burning, fire-breathing criticism.

I wasn't a psych major. What does it mean to argue with a group of people who you know to be critical of a man and attempt to defend him against all criticisim while his actions continue to make himself, and those who defend him, look foolish? Thats got to be some wierd kind of self abuse/denial thing.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Thats got to be some wierd kind of self abuse/denial thing.

As a Reds fan, you are a master of self-abuse.

 

[Jaxbuck]

As a Reds fan, you are a master of self-abuse.

Check the thread, I'm in rehab and doing quite well thanks.

It was time to hang it up for another year, I can't have any of Reds fucktardness rub off on my Buckeye mojo this close to fall camp.

 

[generaladm]

I'm no expert on legal matters, but the idea of pleading not guilty when a breathalyser is on record as 3 times the legal limit sounds futile to me. I can see trying to prolong the process, but I would think requesting a continuance would be the better choice. Also, considering there's still a month until training camp, I would think that taking a plea deal would be the ideal choice. 6 months would be a long time to delay a trial on such a simple matter. By taking a plea, he could theoretically fulfill his obligations (I'm guessing less than a week jail time or community service, and a short rehab stint) before camp. Either way, he should be suspended for at least 1-2 games. I can't imagine the court will let him off scott free.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Probably getting pro bono advice from Dick Rod's lawyers.

Who the hell are you kidding? Rita is IN THE HOUSE!

 

[sparcboxbuck]

I wasn't a psych major. What does it mean to argue with a group of people who you know to be critical of a man and attempt to defend him against all criticisim while his actions continue to make himself, and those who defend him, look foolish? Thats got to be some wierd kind of self abuse/denial thing.

As a Reds fan, you are a master of self-abuse.

As a Psychologist (that'd be Quantitative Psych, not the kind who "cares" about your problems), and a Reds fan the term I think you are looking for is belligerent... or perhaps you?re looking for masochistic.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

It must take a truly special hatred of a man to turn a completely innocuous cliche around into a burning, fire-breathing criticism.

Burning, fire-breathing criticism?

I saw it as sardonic at worst.

You have made many good contributions to the board HtM; but with respect to RR, a sense of perspective would do you a world of good.

I'm no expert on legal matters, but the idea of pleading not guilty when a breathalyser is on record as 3 times the legal limit sounds futile to me. I can see trying to prolong the process, but I would think requesting a continuance would be the better choice. Also, considering there's still a month until training camp, I would think that taking a plea deal would be the ideal choice. 6 months would be a long time to delay a trial on such a simple matter. By taking a plea, he could theoretically fulfill his obligations (I'm guessing less than a week jail time or community service, and a short rehab stint) before camp. Either way, he should be suspended for at least 1-2 games. I can't imagine the court will let him off scott free.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. I just didn't want to type that much. :tongue2:

Seriously though, considering that he blew a .28 and was too shit-faced to answer to the charges at first, I can't think of a reason why a reasonable person wouldn't plea-out. The only thing that comes to mind is that the DA is on the warpath and was insisting on more jail time than what general' and I assume would be on the table for a plea. Then, his only hope of playing would be to go to trial and drag it out as long as possible. But again, I find it highly unlikely that so much jail time was on the table. Perhaps RR told him that if he were incarcerated at all he would be suspended or worse. Clearly, there is more to this than we know.

 

[Oh8ch]

considering that he blew a .28 and was too shit-faced to answer to the charges at first, I can't think of a reason why a reasonable person wouldn't plea-out

That he blew a .28 could be his defense. That is so far up the scale that on its face it suggest a double check. People walk for less.

Hopefully the arresting officers did due diligence.

 

[tsteele316]

That he blew a .28 could be his defense. That is so far up the scale that on its face it suggest a double check. People walk for less.

Hopefully the arresting officers did due diligence.

a few points:

1. you don't ask for a continuance at arraignment. that's ridiculous.

2. .28 is so high that you could argue for machine error.

3. typically what will happen is you plead not guilty, then strike a deal for a first time offense, waiving the additional penalty for a high test. you don't strike a deal before you enter your original plea.

of course, his BAC was so high that the prosecutor may not yield to a plea without high test penalties attached.

 

[gregorylee]

Burning, fire-breathing criticism?

I saw it as sardonic at worst.

You have made many good contributions to the board HtM; but with respect to RR, a sense of perspective would do you a world of good.



Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. I just didn't want to type that much. :tongue2:

Seriously though, considering that he blew a .28 and was too shit-faced to answer to the charges at first, I can't think of a reason why a reasonable person wouldn't plea-out. The only thing that comes to mind is that the DA is on the warpath and was insisting on more jail time than what general' and I assume would be on the table for a plea. Then, his only hope of playing would be to go to trial and drag it out as long as possible. But again, I find it highly unlikely that so much jail time was on the table. Perhaps RR told him that if he were incarcerated at all he would be suspended or worse. Clearly, there is more to this than we know.

The number that he blew , at least in Ohio dictates mandatory jail time. Usually it is 3 days rehab or jail but on "high blows" like that they double everything, and you can only do 3 days rehab, the other three have to be jail. So, unless they allow him to plea down to a single DUI then there is no escaping jail. I don't see them allowing him to do that.

 

[muffler dragon]

The number that he blew , at least in Ohio dictates mandatory jail time. Usually it is 3 days rehab or jail but on "high blows" like that they double everything, and you can only do 3 days rehab, the other three have to be jail. So, unless they allow him to plea down to a single DUI then there is no escaping jail. I don't see them allowing him to do that.

Personal experience knowledge? :tongue2: