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BuckTwenty;1076192; said:
If I were a scUM (and thank the Lord I'm not), my expectations would be pretty low this year, not predicting another 8-4 year. This is going to be a transition year, going from Carr to RR and those kids are gonna have to learn a lot in a short amount of time, going from a heavy pro-set offense to a quick run spread offense and from a 4-3 to a 3-4 (which is a mistake IMO with the DL they have returning).

Utah's no lock for a win, either (and you could make a case for ND too, but I'd rather not). Utah can play inconsistent, especially early in the season, but they had some pretty big upsets last year. Last year, they beat Navy and their run option in the Poinsettia Bowl, won at Louisville & TCU, and killed UCLA at home. Not a team to overlook, especially with the challenges scUM will have playing in their first game of the year.

Two words: Appalachian State.



P.S.- I thought Jamison graduated this past season. Does he have one more year with y'all?
I think Jamison received a redshirt his freshman year due to a season-ending injury suffered early.

Anyway, Utah. I figure we beat them due to it being a home game, because UCLA and Navy are nice wins but not barn-burners, and they lost to absolutely dreadful UNLV.

Shafer, by the way, doesn't run a 3-4 (and certainly the 3-3-5 talk is gone.) In fact he's not really a "scheme" guy at all. I don't think the defense will take much adjusting to.

BuckeyeBill;1076177; said:
Just a philosophical question about RR. I wonder how much of his success at at WVU can be attributed to Stewart?
Probably only the quarterbacks and special teams, as that's what Stewart coached for the vast majority of his time there. He was only "associate head coach" for that one year. Also, Magee (now the UM OC) coached the WVU offense in the Fiesta Bowl and that's the part of the game that really shined for WVU.

tsteele316;1075975; said:
it's not to be discounted that wvu was never a legit contender for anything until miami, vt, and bc all left the big east. being the king of the roost that is now the big east is not all that impressive.
Fair point, but then again those WVU teams that ruled the roost in the Big East also beat Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Oklahoma in their bowl games.
 
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SNIPER26;1075846; said:
Our defense SHOULD improve, seeing as how we have our entire DL coming back, 1 LB, and half of our starting secondary. If I had to guess, our D will look something like this.

DE- Brandon Graham
DT- Terrance Taylor
DT- Will Johnson
DE- Tim Jamison
OLB- Jonas Mouton
MLB- Obi Ezeh
OLB- Marell Evans/Brandon Logan/Freshman?
CB- Donovan Warren
CB- Morgan Trent
FS- Michael Williams
SS- Stevie Brown

In addition, Brandon Harrison will hold down the nickel, we have some youngsters who will likely see some time on the DL. LB could be a serious question mark, even with Ezeh improving at the end of the year. This COULD be a strength of this team.
Morgan Trent returning should really put the fear of God into Michigan fans..

Do you think that Cissiko could challange Trent for a starting job next year?
 
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Sportsbuck28;1076248; said:
Morgan Trent returning should really put the fear of God into Michigan fans..

Do you think that Cissiko could challange Trent for a starting job next year?
Maybe. But Trent is not a bad cornerback. He's not a good one, either. The better WR's (Robiskie, Devin Thomas types) will burn him, but he can hold his own against the Arrelious Benn-types that are a notch or two below the best in the Big Ten, and he'll shut down the crap that Penn State calls wide receivers, Deon Butler and what have you.

I think Trent remains the starter across Warren, and if Warren shows that he can cover the top assignments (sooner or later he will - hopefully this season) then Trent can take the #2 guys and do just fine. Cissoko will start off life as a nickel back and special teamer most likely and then can maybe start as a sophomore when Trent departs.
 
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On the matter of Michigan's defense, we are not changing to any specific scheme. If you would like to make an analogy to the video game NCAA 08, Michigan's playbook would be called "Multiple D." Our new defensive coordinator has already announced that we will not be a scheme-orientated defense. We'll run plays out of the 4-3, 3-4, 3-3-5, and so forth next season. He believes that schemes are overrated, any scheme looks good if you tackle well and disrupt the offensive timing. What he will do, however, is attack the offense. Blitzes from everywhere, linebackers, corners, safeties, he's going to bring pressure, and when need be the house. A telling statistic of this is back at Stanford. The year before he coached, Stanford was 111th in the nation in sacks. His first season there, they moved all the way up to 11th. Granted his overall defense looked pathetic, but he was at Stanford where they don't have all the talent in the world, and they teams like Oregon, USC, and Cal on their schedule.

Sportsbuck28;1076248; said:
Morgan Trent returning should really put the fear of God into Michigan fans..

Do you think that Cissiko could challange Trent for a starting job next year?

Trent returning shouldn't put the fear of God into us. Trent being lousy in 06 was warranted. When you are a WR/CB all your high school career then you stop playing CB for 2 years, you'll lose your feel for the position. That's what happened to Trent. He came to Michigan as a WR, and was there his Fr, RS Fr seasons. However, during spring ball of his RS So there was a depth issue at CB, so they moved him there from WR. He had only a summer of CB training, plus whatever he remembered from HS to go on his first year (2 years ago), and so he understandably sucked it up. Knowing that fact didn't stop me from hating him when he sucked it up, but it was to be expected. Last season was his only 2nd out of 4 years in college of being a CB, so he improved a little bit. This year will be, to say his "Junior" season of being a CB, when players typically break out. I don't expect big things out of him, but I don't really think he'll be as bad as most people are making him out to be.

As for Boubucar Cissoko, he is going to come in and compete for time in the nickel. He's being looked at as a nickel corner this upcoming season when we go to the 3-3-5. It's been announced that the 3-3-5 will usually come in on 3rd down, or whenever the situation warrants it. It's Harrison's spot right now, and Michael Williams last season was Harrison's understudy, but he's going to be a safety this year. Williams was a tweener position last season, where he was a slot CB/FS.

BuckeyeBill;1076177; said:
Just a philosophical question about RR. I wonder how much of his success at at WVU can be attributed to Stewart? Before their bowl game, I wouldn't have given it much thought, but now I wonder. They sure didn't seem to be missing their head coach. This is not meant to be a flame on UM, because I really don't know. But it will be interesting to see how he does over the long haul in the B10. I suspect that for several years he may have more success than people expect, it seems to happen frequently to new coaches. But then the rest of the league begins to adjust to their style of play and the wins don't come as easily

I'm not trying to take anything away from WVU's bowl victory, it was a huge win for them and their program, but I don't neccesarily believe that you can attribute it to Stewart. He was originally the QB Coach and ST Coach for 6 seasons before this year when he became the Tight Ends Coach and Assistant Head Coach. During that game, he wasn't calling the plays on either side of the ball. Calvin McGee who was leaving for Michigan after the game, called all the amazing calls on offense, and Casteel's simple but effective gameplan on defense won him the game. I'd attribute the game moreso to the assistant coaches then to Stewart, not trying to take anything away from WVU. That being said, next year they'll still be good because they have White and Devine. The way we'll find out if Bill Stewart is for real, is in 2-3 years when he has to get his own recruits.
SNIPER26;1075846; said:
Our defense SHOULD improve, seeing as how we have our entire DL coming back, 1 LB, and half of our starting secondary. If I had to guess, our D will look something like this.

DE- Brandon Graham
DT- Terrance Taylor
DT- Will Johnson
DE- Tim Jamison
OLB- Jonas Mouton
MLB- Obi Ezeh
OLB- Marell Evans/Brandon Logan/Freshman?
CB- Donovan Warren
CB- Morgan Trent
FS- Michael Williams
SS- Stevie Brown

In addition, Brandon Harrison will hold down the nickel, we have some youngsters who will likely see some time on the DL. LB could be a serious question mark, even with Ezeh improving at the end of the year. This COULD be a strength of this team.

Here's my assessment of Michigan right now.

DE: Brandon Graham
DT: Will Johnson
DT: Terrance Taylor
DE: Tim Jamison
Significant Playing Time: DE Nick Perry (If we get him) DT Marques Slocum, DT John Ferrara , DE Greg Banks
Our DL Coach Bruce Tall has already announced that we will have a rotating D-Line next season. He likes that hustle that Michigan's D-line exerted next year, and said the line's goal will not be to just hog up blockers, but to get pressure on the QB themselves. He'll have fresh DL by him on the sidelines to rotate in and out during the game, to keep them quick and up tempo the whole game.

WLB: Jonas Mouton
MLB: John Thompson
SLB: Obi Ezeh
Significant Playing Time: MLB Brandon Logan, MLB Austin Panter, and 3 out of the following: OLB Brandon Herron, OLB Marcus Witherspoon, OLB Taylor Hill, OLB Marell Evans, OLB J.B. Fitzgerald.
This will be an interesting position for Michigan next year. We have ALL the talent in the world here, but only two players have had significant playing time here. Thompson lost his starting job to Obi Ezeh last year, but with no experience he'll more then likely get his MLB spot back, and Obi will move to the outside. Mouton was a safety coming in, but grew out of the position. Austin Panter was highly touted coming in last year, but disappointed in off-season practices and redshirted. All of the (backup) OLBs have major speed, but with the biggest of them being J.B. Fitzgerald at 225, size will be an issue. If their not part of the OLBs that play, they'll more then likely redshirt.

CB: Morgan Trent
CB: Donovan Warren
FS: Michael Williams
SS: Stevie Brown
Significant Playing Time: CB Brandon Harrison, CB Boubucar Cissoko, SS Artis Chambers SS Charles Stewart, SS Brandon Smith
This will be interesting for Michigan. Williams came in as a corner/FS, Stewart came in as a corner and is at safety right now, Harrison came in as a corner and played FS part of his career here. This is the position I feel unsure about concerning the safeties. (as in who's starting) One thing we'll know for sure is that this position will be up for grabs in camp, they all are. We have 4 different safeties on the team (Brown, Chambers, Stewart) who can play at either position. I'm nearing the end of writing and it's starting to become incomprehensible, so I'll just stop here lol. I'll post about Michigan's schedule and all that good stuff later.
 
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Honestly, I think Michigan will probably get more wins than people are expecting, with our without Pryor. Illinois won't have their running back, PSU will be starting a new Quarterback, they are in MSU's head, and Purdue will really depend on how they play the week before. Purdue and MSU both choke when they lose the week before, so if Purdue comes in hot that could be a game, Wisconsin will be a game, and tOSU has a strong returning class that should blow through the big10, assuming we don't let a running quarterback hold the ball for the last 8 minutes of a game. The big question for me is at the Offensive Line, since odds are on a freshman QB how's that line going to react and give him time?

I see 8-4 or 9-3 for scUM, but if I am wrong and they go 6-6 it will certainly bring entertainment that should keep these forums rocking :)
 
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Sportsbuck28;1076248; said:
Morgan Trent returning should really put the fear of God into Michigan fans..

Do you think that Cissiko could challange Trent for a starting job next year?

Morgan was actually decent this year. You're putting way too much stock into the '06 OSU/USC games. And no Cissoko won't challenge Trent.
 
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ShakerBuck;1076425; said:
huh? Robiskie was a 1st/2nd round pick if he would've come out this year, and Hartline was a prety solid #2 reciever, not sure I understand your comeback?

1st/2nd round pick? Are you fucking kidding me? Not a chance. He had 2 100 yard games (YSU and Akron) and failed to crack even 60 yards in his final five games. Does he have potential to be a first? Maybe. Is he this year, or even a second? No way.

Hartline couldn't even crack 100 yards once this season. He's probably a good #3, not a #2.
 
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SNIPER26;1076432; said:
1st/2nd round pick? Are you fucking kidding me? Not a chance. He had 2 100 yard games (YSU and Akron) and failed to crack even 60 yards in his final five games. Does he have potential to be a first? Maybe. Is he this year, or even a second? No way.

Hartline couldn't even crack 100 yards once this season. He's probably a good #3, not a #2.

I thought Kiper had Robo as a 1 or 2 rounder if he had declared. Could be wrong, just what I recall.
 
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SNIPER26;1076432; said:
1st/2nd round pick? Are you fucking kidding me? Not a chance. He had 2 100 yard games (YSU and Akron) and failed to crack even 60 yards in his final five games.

You should your facts straight before yapping about opposing WRs. Robo's two 100-yard games were against YSU and Washington, not YSU and Akron. He also had four other games of 82+ yards. A WR doesn't necessarily have to have "sick" stats to be a first-rounder...just "sick" tools (which he has). Several of his lower-yardage games (e.g., Wisconsin, Michigan) were due to Beanie running all over the defense and thus not having many passes thrown his way. By the way, his catch at Minnesota was the Big Ten Catch of the Year this year.
 
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