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2007 Preseason and Regular season Polls

As much as it pains me to say as a Badger fan, congrats on your #1 ranking.

It looks as if my team is reduced to playing spoiler again in the Shoe a few weeks from now. We were overrated :! Expectations and Bucky mix about as well as spinach and cheesecake.
 
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TS10HTW;959997; said:
I think that if both LSU and tOSU win out they may see us as equals until they win the SEC title game, then they jump us for the no. 1 spot.:roll1:

If either USF or BC run the table along with us, no way does LSU jumps us in the BCS standings...the calculation points you lose for a loss are extremely hard to overcome.
 
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This gets my award for best piece of the week on the BCS/Polls business - not surprisingly it is from Pete Fiutak at CFN (his top of page piece is also food for thought).

Just Win, Baby
[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]By Pete Fiutak
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4. Cry and whine all you want about the tough game your team just played, or a nasty conference schedule, or the upcoming road showdown that'll probably keep your team from the BCS. But at the same time, in this wackiest of wacky years, there's no more beefing about someone else's schedule.

Of course Kansas hasn't played a murderer's row of teams, with the toughest test coming against Kansas State. Hawaii's best win so far was against, well, UNLV?! Ohio State has hung its hat on wins over Washington and Purdue, which don't come remotely close to comparing to South Florida's wins over Auburn, at Auburn, and West Virginia. However, this year, wins are wins are wins are wins are wins.

When you have Appalachian State and Stanford on the tip of everyone's college football tongue, and when you have Kentucky and Colorado beating the biggest of the big boys, and when Syracuse can beat Louisville, and then look like it couldn't beat a JV high school team, and when Illinois can become a major player by beating Penn State and Wisconsin, and then lose to a bad Iowa team, and when South Florida, Boston College, and Kentucky are being talked about as national title contenders, when teams like Michigan, Texas and Notre Dame have been eliminated from the discussion long ago, and when week after week after week there's something new and something wacky we haven't seen before, all that matters is winning the game, surviving, and moving on.

The unbeatens will get their say. Boston College and Arizona State have all the conference big boys coming up, South Florida has to deal with Cincinnati, Louisville and Rutgers, and Ohio State has to go to Penn State and Michigan, and get past Illinois and Wisconsin at home. There are a million crazy things certain to happen over the next several weeks, but in this all-timer of years, one thing is for absolute certain. If you go unbeaten, no matter who you are, you'll have truly earned a bus ticket to New Orleans.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;960540; said:
If either USF or BC run the table along with us, no way does LSU jumps us in the BCS standings...the calculation points you lose for a loss are extremely hard to overcome.


My point was that this year's perception of the Big Ten coupled with our showing in the Jan. 8th game might make it easier for some of the pundits and computers to move an SEC champ over a big ten school-------like uf did to tsun last year, ESPECIALLY if we look unimpressive going undefeated.

And it doesn't seem to have hurt LSU all that much since the BCS folks have them ranked #4!!!! THREE spots ahead of the same Kentucky team that just beat them.

So I don't wanna hear LSU can't jump an undefeated team if they win out.:wink2:

It's obvious the BCS has it's flaws and if our opponents crap the bed before we play them and we look like crap beating them it could happen.



I'm not sayin'....I'm just sayin'.:osu:
 
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TS10HTW;960610; said:
My point was that this year's perception of the Big Ten coupled with our showing in the Jan. 8th game might make it easier for some of the pundits and computers to move an SEC champ over a big ten school-------
Computers don't get moved by perception.
 
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sandgk;960680; said:
Computers don't get moved by perception.


True but SOS is the main component of the computers and our opponents need to be playing better ie: Purdue Washington Northwestern Minnesota haven't exactly been killin' it since we beat em.

That's the perception/reality of it:osu:

BTW computer "perception" is only 1/3 reality. Human vote makes 2/3 perception.
 
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TS10HTW;960610; said:
My point was that this year's perception of the Big Ten coupled with our showing in the Jan. 8th game might make it easier for some of the pundits and computers to move an SEC champ over a big ten school-------like uf did to tsun last year, ESPECIALLY if we look unimpressive going undefeated.

I fail to understand what computers have been programed to remember a game that occurred last season as if it's relevant towards this. I get your remark as it concerns idiot pundits, but the Computers won't be moving any SEC teams over Ohio State based on Florida's showing against OSU in Glendale.

And it doesn't seem to have hurt LSU all that much since the BCS folks have them ranked #4!!!! THREE spots ahead of the same Kentucky team that just beat them.

The BCS folks? Who are they, exactly? The same computers which are looking at the Buckeyes with a discerning eye regarding Glendale? The BCS is a formula, not a think tank.

So I don't wanna hear LSU can't jump an undefeated team if they win out.:wink2:

It's obvious the BCS has it's flaws and if our opponents crap the bed before we play them and we look like crap beating them it could happen.

I've recently come to realize the BCS has been good at matching up the best teams from the worst conferences. True, there are the occasional exceptions to this rule, and sometimes the best team might be in the worst conf. but the SEC's top to bottom strength (real or imagined) is not a "BCS benefit" by any means.
 
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TS10HTW;960610; said:
My point was that this year's perception of the Big Ten coupled with our showing in the Jan. 8th game might make it easier for some of the pundits and computers to move an SEC champ over a big ten school-------like uf did to tsun last year, ESPECIALLY if we look unimpressive going undefeated.

And it doesn't seem to have hurt LSU all that much since the BCS folks have them ranked #4!!!! THREE spots ahead of the same Kentucky team that just beat them.

So I don't wanna hear LSU can't jump an undefeated team if they win out.:wink2:

If you care to learn about how the BCS works, there's a detailed explanation of the BCS workings in some posts made this evening in the "BCS rankings/projections" thread in the College Football forum.

And sure, LSU could possibly jump an undefeated team. But there's no way an undefeated tOSU team would be lower than #2 in the final BCS standings this year, and that's all that's necessary to play for the BCS Championship.

So relax about the BCS - and just cheer for the Buckeyes to win out.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;960782; said:
I fail to understand what computers have been programed to remember a game that occurred last season as if it's relevant towards this. I get your remark as it concerns idiot pundits, but the Computers won't be moving any SEC teams over Ohio State based on Florida's showing against OSU in Glendale.



The BCS folks? Who are they, exactly? The same computers which are looking at the Buckeyes with a discerning eye regarding Glendale? The BCS is a formula, not a think tank.



I've recently come to realize the BCS has been good at matching up the best teams from the worst conferences. True, there are the occasional exceptions to this rule, and sometimes the best team might be in the worst conf. but the SEC's top to bottom strength (real or imagined) is not a "BCS benefit" by any means.


Ok let me explain, the "PERCEPTION" of the big ten and the jan 8th game may have some influence on where our opponents get ranked or NR and this hurts the SOS.

This SOS thing is going to move the computers which is exactly why the computers currently have USF ranked #1 and tOSU #5

Sorry when you look at the BCS breakdown and see we're ranked 1st in the Harris and the coaches poll but 5th in the computer ranking it says to me that this other 1/3 of this BCS system is something that may help an SEC team move up. Kentucky is ranked 7th in the BCS and will probably keep winning and this will also be helpful to LSU.

I don't like it and I hope it doesn't happen but the reality is tOSU can't control how poorly our opponents have played. (effects SOS, right?)
PSU losing 2 games isn't going to help either, we win and they just sucked and we lose and we lost to a 2 loss team in the B10. Not to mention an over rated wisc. team coming to town it's not as helpful to us because our opponents are crapping all over themselves in games they should be winning.

tOSU needs to pound these guys remaining on the schedule to dust and keep the pollsters impressed:osu:

sorry I'm not trying to get in a pissing match here but it's really not hard to see what I'm saying. It may or may not happen but if we win unconvincingly and our B10 opponents don't play well in other games well, ya know.
 
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BB73;960804; said:
If you care to learn about how the BCS works, there's a detailed explanation of the BCS workings in some posts made this evening in the "BCS rankings/projections" thread in the College Football forum.

And sure, LSU could possibly jump an undefeated team. But there's no way an undefeated tOSU team would be lower than #2 in the final BCS standings this year, and that's all that's necessary to play for the BCS Championship.

So relax about the BCS - and just cheer for the Buckeyes to win out.


I never said we wouldn't be ranked atleast #2 if we went undefeated did I?

didn't think so I said we would be playin the Tigers go back and look.

we'd just be ranked #2 when we do play em which is NBD.:oh:
 
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