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2006 Heisman Discussion (merged all)

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Looking ahead

Smith has Heisman locked up, but what about 2007?

Posted: Monday November 27, 2006 2:46PM

It's my job to keep you reading even if the following statement -- Troy Smith leads Heisman race -- isn't exactly news. That being said, let's take an absurdly early glance at whom we may be talking about next year.
Running backs immediately jump out, led by Arkansas' Darren McFadden. Michigan's Mike Hart, West Virginia's Steve Slaton, Cal's Marshawn Lynch, Wisconsin's P.J. Hill and Clemson's James Davis and C.J. Spiller.
The quarterback situation is less clear. Louisville's Brian Brohm would be the leading candidate if he returns for his senior season, but that's a big if. Hawaii's Colt Brennan has put up lottery-like numbers, but he hasn't beaten anyone. West Virginia's Pat White, if he improves his passing ability, may just be the best of the bunch.
And the best longshot candidate may be Cal's all-purpose, score-from-anywhere weapon, DeSean Jackson.
Now, back to this year's race. In the penultimate column, the candidates have been narrowed from eight to five. Next week, we'll reveal the top three.

1. Troy Smith, Ohio State, QB, Sr.

Last week: Idle
Season: 199-of-297 passing, 2,507 yards, 30 TDs, 5 INTs; 62 rushes, 233 yards, 1 TD
Heisman-o-meter: He's already locked down the No. 1 spot on this list no matter what happens on Saturday, but the Heisman isn't the only award that could be coming Smith's way. He's already a finalist for the Maxwell and could win the Walter Camp Player of the Year award as well. If he takes home all three, he would be the 19th player to complete the sweep, but the first since Ron Dayne in 1999.
Up next: Regular season complete

2. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame, QB, Sr.

Last week: 22-of-45 passing, 274 yards, 3 TDs; 11 rushes, 74 yards in a 44-24 loss at No. 3 USC
Season: 274-of-432 passing, 3,278 yards, 35 TDs, 5 INTs; 79 rushes, 65 yards, 2 TDs
Heisman-o-meter: He never gave up against USC, but the effort was far from Heisman-worthy. He just wasn't as sharp against the Trojans as he had been post-Michigan, and even when he threw his third touchdown pass late in the fourth quarter, there was never any doubt in the outcome of the game. Quinn backers will say that he has better numbers and means more to his team than Smith but conveniently forget that he's 0-2 in the Irish's biggest games this year.
Up next: Regular season complete

3. Darren McFadden, Arkansas, RB, Soph.

Last week: 21 rushes, 182 yards, 2 TDs; 2-of-2 passing, 33 yards; 1 reception, 7 yards in a 31-26 loss to No. 9 LSU
Season: 244 rushes, 1,485 yards, 14 TDs; 5-of-5 passing, 70 yards, 2 TDs; 9 receptions, 122 yards, 1 TD; 8 kickoff returns, 226 yards, 1 TD
Heisman-o-meter: You can't blame McFadden for the Hogs' loss. He did everything he could to rally the team, including breaking an 80-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter and once again taking snaps in Arkansas' Wildcat formation. The guy is simply a do-it-all athletic freak who has excelled against the top defenses in the country. He rightfully deserves to be invited to New York.
Up next: Saturday vs. No. 4 Florida in Atlanta

4. Mike Hart, Michigan, RB, Jr.

Last week: Idle
Season: 301 rushes, 1,515 yards, 14 TDs; 15 receptions, 127 yards
Heisman-o-meter: He lacks the gamebreaking ability of other running backs being considered, but his toughness and blocking ability rank at the top. And I would love to see the kind of stats he would produce if he played in an offense that had a bit more creativity in its running game, say, West Virginia's.
Up next: Regular season complete

5. Steve Slaton, West Virginia, RB, Soph.

Last week: 18 rushes, 43 yards; 2 receptions, 8 yards in a 24-19 loss against South Florida
Season: 222 rushes, 1,621 yards, 14 TDs; 22 receptions, 303 yards, 2 TDs
Heisman-o-meter: A case could be made for a number of players to be No. 5 -- Rutgers' Ray Rice, Cal's Marshawn Lynch, Hawaii's Colt Brennan -- but the choice here is Slaton, whose hiccup against South Florida (it was his worst game as a starter) should not diminish a season's worth of work. If it wasn't for his fumbling issues against Louisville three weeks ago and again against the Bulls on Saturday (he fumbled on the South Florida 2-yard line), he would be higher on this list.
Up next: Saturday vs. No. 13 Rutgers
 
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Player.......................1st...2nd...3rd...4th...5th...Pts
Troy Smith..................4......0......0......0......0.....40
Colt Brennan...............0......1......2......1......0.....20
Darren McFadden.........0......1......1......1......0.....15
Mike Hart....................0......1......1......0......0.....12
Ian Johnson................0......1......0......1......1......11
Brady Quinn................0......0......0......1......1......04
Steve Slaton...............0......0......0......0......2......02
 
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If Pitt stays like he said he would originally, I think his chances are slim because of Wells. I see Beanie getting twice as many carries next year regardless. Should be an exciting ground game next year...if Pitt returns, it's going to be abusive towards defenses.
 
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Cornerback6;671750; said:
If Pitt stays like he said he would originally, I think his chances are slim because of Wells. I see Beanie getting twice as many carries next year regardless. Should be an exciting ground game next year...if Pitt returns, it's going to be abusive towards defenses.
hmm maybe.. i think pittman holds onto the job.. wells is a beast though and i wouldnt hurt me to see him start.. i think pitt has the job or else theres no reason for him to stay
 
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BuckeyeSoldier;671889; said:
I think he meant beanie would be getting twice as many carries as he got this year, not twice as many as pittman.

I know what he meant but if Beanie gets twice as many carries as he did this year then that can only mean he's starting.

Beanie got 102 carries this year, Pittman got 232. I don't see Beanie getting over 200 carries as a back-up. We won't run the ball that much.
 
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Doesn't matter if Beanie gets the carries or not. McFadden will win the award running away next season if he stays healthy. Right now I would take him over every running back in college football. I love Antonio Pittman but McFadden is a special special player, think a bigger stronger Reggie Bush.
 
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Bestbuck36;672001; said:
Doesn't matter if Beanie gets the carries or not. McFadden will win the award running away next season if he stays healthy. Right now I would take him over every running back in college football. I love Antonio Pittman but McFadden is a special special player, think a bigger stronger Reggie Bush.

And Adrian Peterson was a runaway favorite too. I wouldn't bet the house on McFadden. Amazing player but he may not go a full season healthy.
 
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Bestbuck36;672001; said:
Doesn't matter if Beanie gets the carries or not. McFadden will win the award running away next season if he stays healthy. Right now I would take him over every running back in college football. I love Antonio Pittman but McFadden is a special special player, think a bigger stronger Reggie Bush.


Hence the reason I said if.
 
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Next year is gonna be a wide open race. Hard to pick a clear-cut favorite this early, but I'd go with McFadden at this point. He has that certain "it" quality about him and is a threat to rip of a huge play everytime he touches the ball. Hart will get mentions, but he lacks the big play capabilities. Henne will be up there too, but I think he and Hart would split votes if . Booty will be one to watch next year too. USC QB's will always put up big numbers and I think he'll be a better QB with a year under his belt.
 
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OregonBuckeye;671896; said:
I know what he meant but if Beanie gets twice as many carries as he did this year then that can only mean he's starting.

Beanie got 102 carries this year, Pittman got 232. I don't see Beanie getting over 200 carries as a back-up. We won't run the ball that much.


I agree, BUT (and this is a big but), we didn't have to run the ball that much THIS year, because of Troy's arm. Offense will change some after Troy is gone. So, we may end up running the ball more next year.
 
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I don't recall seeing an article like this before.

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Tuesday Question - Who's the Heisman No. 2?

The Heisman race has been over for weeks, but the battle for second is heating up. Should Colt Brennan's numbers be enough to get him to New York? Did Brady Quinn do enough to overcome two high-profile losses? Has Mike Hart been overtaken, and has Darren McFadden made enough of a splash? Who should (not will) be No. 2, in the latest Tuesday Question.


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TROY'S HEISMAN RUN
Buckeye quarterback Troy Smith, the odds on favorite to win the Heisman Trophy next weekend in New York, impressed Tressel in the Michigan game. Smith also helped Tressel sleep a little better the night before.
"A friend of mine I talk to every Friday night before I go to bed to help give me wisdom said, 'Don't worry coach, Troy won't let us lose,' " Tressel said when asked how he slept the night before the Michigan game. "Not that it made me sleep that much better, but that's the way Troy is."
Is Smith the best quarterback in Buckeye history? Tressel isn't going to touch that.
"Gosh. He's the best ever for this moment for us," Tressel said. "I'm not going to compare what Craig Krenzel did, or Rex Kern or Joe Germaine."
SILVER FOOTBALL AWARD
Ohio State has not had a Silver Football Award winner since Germaine in 1998. The Silver Football is presented by the Chicago Tribune based on nominations by Big Ten coaches and a vote of the Big Ten office and Tribune staff. It is considered the Big Ten MVP. Red Grange won the first award in 1924.
"I'm hoping we can get another one of those plaques hanging up that says we had the outstanding player in the league," Tressel said. "I think (Smith) is outstanding."
 
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