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2006 Heisman Discussion (merged all)

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OSU_Buckguy;612825; said:
i have to believe that when -- not if -- smith has a big game with his arms and his feet, a la tsun, he will create a wal-mart sized separation between himself and the field. this performance from smith may not happen until michigan, which is just fine with me. there couldn't be a better game for that to happen.
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ANNNNDDD he doesnt stumble somewhere along the road.:osu:
I think Ginn will drop out unless he starts getting some returns. He would need those to boost his heisman stature. I dont think he can do it as a receiver.
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Best Buckeye;613008; said:
I think Ginn will drop out unless he starts getting some returns. He would need those to boost his heisman stature. I dont think he can do it as a receiver.
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I agree, Ted is dancing too much on the returns. As a receiver he could put up bigger numbers, if he got more touches. But, I like the way the offense is spreading the football around!
 
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SATXBuck;613117; said:
I agree, Ted is dancing too much on the returns. As a receiver he could put up bigger numbers, if he got more touches. But, I like the way the offense is spreading the football around!
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I think the blocking isnt as good yet as it was last year and hopefully that will improve, and he will start to get better returns.
The spreadier the better with our talent!!
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Heisman votes may elude WVU's Slaton


Caulton Tudor, Staff Writer
This season's Heisman Trophy winner could be in Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium today when running back Steve Slaton and West Virginia face East Carolina.There's not a player in the country off to a more impressive start than the 5-foot-10, 190-pound sophomore. He has rushed for 503 yards and six touchdowns in three games for the Mountaineers and is a legitimate threat to score any time he gets the ball.
But historically, Slaton faces imposingly long odds as the Heisman race unfolds in the weeks ahead.
A West Virginia player never has been a Heisman winner, and college football's top individual award increasingly is becoming the private domain of the glamour programs.
The Mountaineers haven't cracked that circle yet. West Virginia has been close, including an 11-1 record with a Sugar Bowl win over Georgia last season.
Don Nehlen's 1988 West Virginia team was in the national championship hunt throughout the season, but a 34-21 loss to undefeated Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl left that team No. 5 in the final Associated Press poll.
The Mountaineers' star player in '88 was quarterback Major Harris, an early-day Vince Young of sorts.
Harris had a rare gift for making plays. But in that season's Heisman voting, he could do no better than fifth place, behind Barry Sanders, Rodney Peete, Troy Aikman and Steve Walsh.
A year later, Harris was third in the voting -- behind Andre Ware and Anthony Thompson -- as West Virginia's 8-3-1 record was too much for Harris to overcome.
Slaton is in a similar predicament this season. Even if he continues to pile up astonishing offensive stats and the Mountaineers finish the regular season undefeated, which is a distinct possibility, Slaton could finish behind Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith and Oklahoma runner Adrian Peterson when the votes are tallied in December.
It's unfair, but constant national exposure has become more important than ever for Heisman hopefuls. Most of that attention -- particularly in late season -- is directed to players in the perceived elite programs.
Thirteen of the past 15 Heisman winners played at Southern California, Texas, Michigan, Florida State, Miami, Nebraska, Ohio State, Florida or Oklahoma.
The two exceptions to that run were running backs Ron Dayne of Wisconsin (1999) and Rashaan Salaam of Colorado (1994).
Only once during that period has a Big East player been able to finish as high as No. 2 -- wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald of Pittsburgh in 2003.
It's not that some Heisman winners didn't deserve the trophy. It's just that it's a difficult award to win. John Elway, Steve Young and Peyton Manning couldn't. Vince Young finished behind Reggie Bush just last season.
It's tougher for players such as Slaton, who often perform beneath the national radar.
But if he keeps up the pace of the first three games, he is going to get at least one vote.
Mine.
 
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Caulton Tudor;615110; said:
It's unfair, but constant national exposure has become more important than ever for Heisman hopefuls. Most of that attention -- particularly in late season -- is directed to players in the perceived elite programs.... It's tougher for players such as Slaton, who often perform beneath the national radar.
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There's a reason for that - it's called level of competition.

In 1987, Holy Cross's Gordie Lockbaum couldn't win the Heisman either, despite having much better production than Notre Dame's Tim Brown, who was awarded the Trophy that year. Lockbaum had more all-purpose yards than Brown (2,071 to 1,847); more than twice as many pass receptions (78 to 34); and nearly three times as many touchdowns (22 to 8); in addition, Lockbaum was a two-way starter for the Crusaders (RB, DB, PR, and he was a D-1AA All-American at all three positions). Lockbaum had better numbers, but against lesser competition; BTW, Gordie finished third in the voting that year, behind Brown and Don McPherson, the QB from Syracuse (another "beneath the national radar" program).

Slaton's a great player, but he''l have to put up phenomenal numbers against cupcake competition in order to get noticed by the Heisman voters.
 
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I think Ginn is out unless he does a 180.
THe "analyst" should watch the first half , and keep in mind that Quinn didnt lead Nd to that victory. Stanton led ND to that victory:)
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Best Buckeye;616778; said:
I think Ginn is out unless he does a 180.
THe "analyst" should watch the first half , and keep in mind that Quinn didnt lead Nd to that victory. Stanton led ND to that victory:)
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300yds passing for 5 TDs, did it for him. If, he keep putting up numbers against bad teams, he'll be there at the end.
 
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