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2006 Buckeyes Forecast, Recruiting, and The Game (Merged)

I'm worried about the defense. We have potentially only two starters coming back. I was interested to see how Laurinaitis did in the Notre Dame game. He looked like he really struggled on the first series, and was blown up on the their first touchdown. He's pretty much pencilled in as the starter next year. Basically, there's a lot of potential, but I'm worried about the lack of experience returning.
 
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No doubt Vince will get his fair share of points but so would Troy. The game would be close and we will have a good chance of winning. We lose a lot of guys in defense but our offense is going to be explosive and if Troy continues to progress as he had in the second half of the season then Troy can match Vince Young in scoring.

I am not saying that OSU will win but OSU has a good chance of winning. You guys are sounding a bit like the media who hyped USC as the team of the century and all that bull.

When Texas won this year, they had lost their best MLB and the RB who were first round draft picks but they still managed to win due to our inability to score any TD's and end up with field goals.

And keep in mind even Texas loses, I believe three starters from the offensive line, Michael Huff, Cedric Griffin and I don't know who else in the secondary. It's going to be VY vs TS and I would take my chances with TS.
 
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Biobuck: You know how big a fan I am, but you should also know how realistic I am. Our defense will simply be too green at the time. If the game were at the end of the season, then I think we could hang.

Buckeye513: No way we look like 2004, no frickin' way. In my mind, Texas is the only game we lose next year. We could end up with a rematch against them in the NC game.

Smooth Olaf: I'm not "worried", just a tad "concerned" about our defense early next year. By the end of the season, they'll be father ahead than the 2004 defense was at the end of 2004.
 
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Yeah, the D is gonna be horrible.
The sky is falling. The sky is falling.
I am a realist also, and I think our D is gonna surprise alot of people next year.

It's amazing what turnovers can do to elevate a defense.

IMHO, we get better in the turnover department, while losing a bit on yardage. It will even out. Just my honest opinoin.
 
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Mili: That's why I am surpised. I would not argue with you if you said Texas will be heavy favorites but I disagree with the way you put it down as us having no chance.

Sure, I do think VY can score points on us because of our new defense and as you said I would be more confident if it's a mid-season or end of the season game but at the same time I would fancy our chances if our offense continues to evolve and Troy continues to improve. If Teddy can play like it's an end of season game (michigan, bowl games) that would be of some help in scoring some points as well.

And as I mentioned Texas does lose a few players as well..particularly at least two players in the secondary..Huff, Griffin and don't know about the otehr two. So I would take my chances with the hope that Troy can find Teddy on some deep routes and antonion and chris wells can pound it.
It's going to be a shoot-out.

And remember the bulls-eye will be on Texas and OSU would like to payback for this year's disappointment at the Horseshoe. My prediction mark it down - Texas will have the lead but Troy comes back to win the game for us in the 4th quarter like VY did this year.

That's my rationale. If you still think we have NO chance, we just have to agree to disagree. I think Texas are favorites 60-40 may be 70-30. I just hope our players can be motivated and focus on beating Texas in Austin like Vince young was in beating Ohio State. If we beat Texas, we would put ourselves in the driver's seat for a fourth trip to fiesta bowl in 5 years.
 
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Our linebackers this season held VY to 76 yds on 20 carries, including a long one of 32 yds. Now, if he returns, I think we will have a very tough time of stopping him. Not that we don't have good players. Freeman, D'Andrea and Hoobler/Laurinitis form an excellent group. However, the experience factor that allowed us to contain Young will hurt us in '06. Losing great tacklers in Salley and Whitner certainly won't help either. If Youboty goes pro, then we would be looking at a situation where we lose our entire LBing crew AND secondary. Let's just pray that he stays.

Best case scenario: Whitner and Youboty returns
those two along with Jenkins and O'Neil would form arguably the top defensive backfield in college football. If we lose Whitner, then you have to be looking at Mitchell, Lyons and Patterson fighting for that spot. I don't want to guess who's going to replace Youboty cuz there's just no one there right now.

LBer: I expect the coaches to use D'Andrea to blitz the QB, much like the way we utilized Bobby Carpenter. Because of his versatility, I think where he plays may come down to who the coaches like better between Hoobler and Laurinitis. Marcus Freeman is expected to be the next great one here, and he has to play that way in order for OSU to have a chance against Texas.

DL: Lawrence Wilson may become the best player on the D-Line. Pitcock will to counted on to make a lot of plays and Patterson will continue to be a solid force. We need a young tackle or end to emerge though.

Overall, there are too many uncertainties at this point. However, if OSU plays lights out and everybody (and I mean Youboty and Whitner included) tackles well and comes up with turnovers, then OSU's offense will give them a shot to win the game. Of course, if Mr. Young does not return, our chances look very good...:osu:
 
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I haven't seen enough of the young guys to actually predict but you have to give the them the benefit of the doubt. Spirit and heart might count for alot in a game like this. Worse comes to worse if Texas is scoring we have to open it up and I know we can potentially keep up even without Holmes. It looks as though all articles are saying Young is leaning towards another season which means that we can expect some amazing attack power and a defense as depleted as ours. I would take our defense and if we are playing like we have these last two games I will take our offense over the national champions. I won't be surprised if we upset the horns.
 
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Our linebackers this season held VY to 76 yds on 20 carries, including a long one of 32 yds. Now, if he returns, I think we will have a very tough time of stopping him. Not that we don't have good players. Freeman, D'Andrea and Hoobler/Laurinitis form an excellent group. However, the experience factor that allowed us to contain Young will hurt us in '06. Losing great tacklers in Salley and Whitner certainly won't help either. If Youboty goes pro, then we would be looking at a situation where we lose our entire LBing crew AND secondary. Let's just pray that he stays.

Best case scenario: Whitner and Youboty returns
those two along with Jenkins and O'Neil would form arguably the top defensive backfield in college football. If we lose Whitner, then you have to be looking at Mitchell, Lyons and Patterson fighting for that spot. I don't want to guess who's going to replace Youboty cuz there's just no one there right now.

LBer: I expect the coaches to use D'Andrea to blitz the QB, much like the way we utilized Bobby Carpenter. Because of his versatility, I think where he plays may come down to who the coaches like better between Hoobler and Laurinitis. Marcus Freeman is expected to be the next great one here, and he has to play that way in order for OSU to have a chance against Texas.

DL: Lawrence Wilson may become the best player on the D-Line. Pitcock will to counted on to make a lot of plays and Patterson will continue to be a solid force. We need a young tackle or end to emerge though.

Overall, there are too many uncertainties at this point. However, if OSU plays lights out and everybody (and I mean Youboty and Whitner included) tackles well and comes up with turnovers, then OSU's offense will give them a shot to win the game. Of course, if Mr. Young does not return, our chances look very good...:osu:

You're forgetting Amos. According to some players in practice, from what I understand, he's the best of the young DBs.
 
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It's ashame that our past strong defensive teams were so vastly underrated. No one seems to care about strong defensive teams (except us), and seems to look at exciting offensive shootouts. It sounds like we're getting a lot of hype with our offense starting to really come together, and I think that it's a shame that most people don't realize how important of a commodity defense is. Defense wins championships, and if Vince Young decides to come back next year, it will be very difficult for us to beat the Longhorns in Austin. It's not impossible, but the odds favor the Longhorns.
 
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It's ashame that our past strong defensive teams were so vastly underrated. No one seems to care about strong defensive teams (except us), and seems to look at exciting offensive shootouts. It sounds like we're getting a lot of hype with our offense starting to really come together, and I think that it's a shame that most people don't realize how important of a commodity defense is. Defense wins championships, and if Vince Young decides to come back next year, it will be very difficult for us to beat the Longhorns in Austin. It's not impossible, but the odds favor the Longhorns.

Yeah, and the odds favored tOSU at the 'SHOE.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

I'm not really sure what that means, but I think we win in Austin. :biggrin:
 
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The thing that OSU has going for them is the amount of time it has to get ready for Young. Also there are already some players that has already played against Young. Remember, we held him to 76 yards on the ground including a long one of 32 yards. If we get ahead with a nice lead, and play with real players instead of wooden figures dressed in football uniforms, we should fare much better than SC did tonight.
 
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Was just looking at the texas roster.

3 of the 4 starters in the secondary are seniors. They are Michael Huff, Michael Griffin and Cedric griffin. Their CB Tarrel Brown would return and he's a junior.

Their best LB this year Aaron Harris, MLB is a senior and they would lose Rodrique Wright as well from the defensive line. The punter Rich McGee is also a senior.

On offense they lose VY's favorite receiver - TE David Thomas, RG Will Allen, LT Jonathan Scott. They also lose the place kicker David Pino.

I am assuming there would be no early declarations for the draft. So, while they don't lose as many as they lose a fair number of players as well. I like the fact that they would be losing 3 players in the secondary, their MLB and the star DT Rodrique Wright.

So, as I said earlier, I think we have a good chance of winning the game and it's going to a hyped up showdown between TS Vs VY. With the emergence of OSU's offense and TS's play in the second half of the season, the hype is going to be much more than what it was last year if VY stays.

Texas would be #1 if VY stays and we would be definitely be in the Top 5 if not Top 3. We could even be ranked pre-season 2 if Lendale White leaves with ML and RB. May be LSU could be number 2...anyway if we beat Texas we could start planning for another Fiesta.

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&change_well_id=16&url_channel_id=15
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball....hannel_id=&url_article_id=18&change_well_id=2
 
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ABJ

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Posted on Thu, Jan. 05, 2006
Buckeyes must adjust to losses

Offense might have to lead team next season

By Marla Ridenour

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content --> Next year will be a groundbreaking season at Ohio State.
For the first time in the coach Jim Tressel era, the offense will have to carry the team.
With the loss of six and, perhaps seven, starters on defense, including the entire linebacking corps, Tressel might have to change the strategy that has been his winning formula since he arrived in 2001. He's not likely to abandon the running game led by current sophomore tailback Antonio Pittman, but he might have to open up the offense in an effort to outscore opponents until his new defensive players bond.
``We talked about it, all the young defensive guys, about how the defense is going to struggle a little bit,'' said freshman defensive end Lawrence Wilson of St. Vincent-St. Mary. ``We'll bounce back. We'll find our identity early and have our game down by the end of the year.''
After Monday's 34-20 victory over Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, Tressel and defensive coordinator Jim Heacock must find replacements for defensive end Mike Kudla, linebackers A.J. Hawk, Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Schlegel, free safety Nate Salley and cornerback Tyler Everett. Strong safety Donte Whitner could announce this week that he's bypassing his senior season for the NFL Draft, and cornerback Ashton Youboty is a long shot to leave.
John Kerr, James Laurinaitis, Marcus Freeman and Mike D'Andrea are among the candidates at linebacker, although there is some talk that D'Andrea could move to defensive end in 2006 because of knee problems. Kudla will hand the reins to Quinn Pitcock as the leader of the defensive line, but Pitcock is not a pass-rushing threat, which could mean a breakout year for Wilson.
The offense will be star-studded and might not miss a beat even with junior split end Santonio Holmes headed to the NFL. Capped by a dominating bowl performance at Sun Devil Stadium, OSU averaged 38.3 points and 456.6 yards in its final seven games and rolled up a stunning 617 total yards against the Irish.
Quarterback Troy Smith has come into his own after 15 games as a starter (13-2 record). He completed 19-of-28 passes for 342 yards and two touchdowns and rushed 13 times for 66 yards to be named offensive most valuable player against Notre Dame. Smith is drawing comparisons to Texas quarterback Vince Young, who put his game together at the end of the 2004 season.
``Troy Smith, he's just on another level,'' former OSU Heisman Trophy winner Eddie George said Monday. ``The last five or six games he played as well as any quarterback in Ohio State history. Come next year, he's going to be a Heisman Trophy candidate. He's only going to improve. But in big games, I don't know if he can get much better. That's kind of become his M.O., the big-game quarterback. Look at what he's done in the last two Michigan games and this one.''
In those three, Smith has accounted for 1,131 yards rushing and passing and seven touchdowns.
Pittman rushed for 1,331 yards this season, topping Maurice Clarett's 1,237 in 2002. Pittman scored all seven of his touchdowns in the last five games, including the game-winner against Michigan and the 60-yard clincher against Notre Dame.
The receiving corps will be explosive with Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez and senior-to-be Roy Hall, whose physical style has been compared to former OSU star David Boston. Youngsters who also could contribute include Albert Dukes and Brian Robiskie.
``I might be biased, but I think I've got the best receiving corps in the nation, with young guys who haven't had a chance to show what they can do to follow,'' Smith said.
Hall arrived at OSU with Holmes, and while he knows he might not be able to fill his shoes, he seems confident.
``Everything he knows, I know. Everything he can do, I can do,'' Hall said.
The loss of senior tight end Ryan Hamby with a knee injury in the final four regular-season games didn't rock the boat because sophomore Marcel Frost, a converted defensive lineman, showed flashes of talent.
``He has great hands, moves well for a big guy. I think he's going to stay there,'' Hall said of Frost.
Offensively, the biggest question marks will be on the line, which loses center Nick Mangold and left guard Rob Sims, who made his 40th career start against Notre Dame. Talented freshman tackle Alex Boone and sophomore tackle Steve Rehring, forced to redshirt when he contracted pneumonia, wait in the wings.
Another area of concern will be kicker, with sixth-year senior Josh Huston departing. His backup this season was freshman Ryan Pretorius, a native of South Africa.
OSU's 2006 schedule doesn't allow for growing pains because the Buckeyes visit Texas on Sept. 9 in the second game. A national championship berth in the Fiesta Bowl will be the goal, and Smith seemed ready to help the offense take them there.
``Probably for the last four or five years we've been known as a defensive team,'' Smith said. ``I'm sure we will still be known as a defensive team, even though we lose key and major guys. Now it's going to be more of a balance, the defense and the offense.''
Hall seemed ready for the challenge.
``Everybody knows when you lose a lot of defensive leaders it could be hard on the defensive side,'' Hall said. ``But talent-wise we'll be just as good next year. Guys are just going to have to grow up a lot faster and step up and take care of some business.
``Offensively we need to keep doing what we're doing. We can't come out slow. We have to come out as we finished the year, putting up points and keeping defenses honest.''
 
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ABJ

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Posted on Thu, Jan. 05, 2006
OHIO STATE PROJECTED 2006 LINEUP

<!-- begin body-content --> OFFENSE
QB: Troy Smith (senior)
TB: Antonio Pittman (junior)
FB: Stan White Jr. (senior)
WR: Roy Hall (senior)
WR: Ted Ginn Jr. (junior)
LT: Kirk Barton (junior)
LG: Steve Rehring (sophomore)
C: Doug Datish (senior)
RG: T.J. Downing (senior)
RT: Alex Boone (sophomore)
TE: Marcel Frost (junior)
WR: Anthony Gonzalez (junior)
DEFENSE
DE: Lawrence Wilson (sophomore)
LT: David Patterson (senior)
RT: Quinn Pitcock (senior)
DE: Mike D'Andrea (senior)
LB: Marcus Freeman (junior)
LB: John Kerr (senior)
LB: James Laurinaitis (sophomore)
CB: Ashton Youboty (senior)
CB: Malcolm Jenkins (sophomore)
FS: Brandon Mitchell (senior)
SS: Donte Whitner (senior)
Nickel: Jamario O'Neal (sophomore)
SPECIAL TEAMS
PK: Ryan Pretorius (redshirt freshman)
P: A.J. Trapasso (sophomore)
Snapper: Drew Norman (senior)
PR: Ted Ginn Jr.
KR: Ted Ginn Jr. and Brian Hartline (redshirt freshman)
Note: Includes class for next season.
 
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DE: Lawrence Wilson (sophomore)
LT: David Patterson (senior)
RT: Quinn Pitcock (senior)
DE: Mike D'Andrea (senior)
LB: Marcus Freeman (junior)
LB: John Kerr (senior)
LB: James Laurinaitis (sophomore)
CB: Ashton Youboty (senior)
CB: Malcolm Jenkins (sophomore)
FS: Brandon Mitchell (senior)
SS: Donte Whitner (senior)
Nickel: Jamario O'Neal (sophomore)

I agree with Lawrence! With Another year of getting bigger and faster he'll most definatly start, and make a difference as well. I'm not sure bout D'Andrea at DE though however. We've been saying that for 3 years now and I'm just not sure they'll switch him permanatly his senior season (he'll be used situationally most certainly). I look for Jay Richardson to get a strong look at a defensive end spot.

my guess is this tell me what you guys think!

DE-Lawrence Wilson
DT-Pitcock
DT-Patterson
DE-Richardson
OLB-Freeman
MLB-D'Andrea
OLB-Laurinitus
CB-Youboty
FS-Mitchell
SS-Whitner or O'neal (depends on Whitners decision)
CB-Jenkins
 
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