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Game Thread #2 Ohio State vs #3 Clemson, 8 pm ET, Dec 28th in Glendale, AZ

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My last post this year and probably until the Spring Game.


- Defense played quite well for long stretches despite a good deal of punting and lack of scoring in the redzone. Holding Clemson to 29, and a late 29 no less is pretty impressive.
- The dropped screen and Fields putting a little more touch on the lob to Dobby were... not ideal.
- Bad penalties. The roughing the kicker was brutal.
- This offense was good with Fields as a service passer. He needs work between the ears, syncing his feet with his throwing motion and how to work off script. That final fatal pick was him not being on the same page as Olave.
Expecting the receiver to keep crossing the DB's face and the WR starts the scramble drill because he doesn't know if you're going to find him and keep working from the pocket.


As for the strip score... At some point, the NCAA and NFL are both going to have to come together and decide what constitutes a catch. Because had that happened but the receiver stretched the ball over the pylon, it would have been ruled a TD. So if the refs and the rules are comfortable with that, then they should be completely fine with calling that what it should have been called - a Buckeye defensive TD. Sure, you can point to things we could have done as a team, but at some time the officiating needs to be taken to task because that was directly tied to a score. A game winning margin considering the Bucks last TD no less.



Didn't think the play calling on either side of the ball was bad. Proud of the defense coming out and not playing scared with all the man coverage. Just hoping the young secondary and backfield will be ready to roll come September.
I've got nothing else beyond that at the moment. My voice is scratching and I'm tired. But the beautiful thing about football is that there will always be another game after this one.


Edit: I can't really give Clemson their "due" here either. 2 incredibly questionable calls and a timely drop on a wide open screen stopped this game from being a 16pt Buckeye win.

Burrow chews through their secondary and reminds them the Bucks will see Goldie-locks next year too.
 
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MARVYMARV14 said:
I've seen refs use better judgement during games. It's over so who cares at this point but the rule should be changed to factor in circumstace...
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The circumstance is that he blasted the head of the QB with the top of his helmet.

Just....come on with that call. It sucked that we lost a super important player, but he broke the rule in the most text book way. There isn't a world where a QB gets hit like that and it's not targeting.
 
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jebussmurf said:
Lawrence is 6'6. Doing that takes time and he might throw the ball way or check it down.

I was being facetious but if his head wasn't there, I think his shoulder hits Lawrence in the chest and not the head. Agree that shoulder to head is still targeting.
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I was being facetious that wade's only way to stay in the game is to whiff like the Sooners did.

Massive Trevor ducked about two feet.
 
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JohnnyCockfight said:
To clarify, my biggest issue with the targeting call is this - we don't know, and nobody can know if Wade's helmet would have made contact with Lawrence at all had Lawrence not crouched way down and leaned forward (with his helmet) into the hit. I've watched it frame by frame and it is not clear. So how the hell does a replay official initiate the review (it wasn't called on the field) and uphold it so quickly?
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Because that's not what determines a review. A player got hit in the head with the crown of a helmet. Beep boop boop initiate review....boop boop beep see clear as day hit destroyed him with the top of his helmet....eject.
 
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Buckeneye said:
My last post this year and probably until the Spring Game.


- Defense played quite well for long stretches despite a good deal of punting and lack of scoring in the redzone. Holding Clemson to 29, and a late 29 no less is pretty impressive.
- The dropped screen and Fields putting a little more touch on the lob to Dobby were... not ideal.
- Bad penalties. The roughing the kicker was brutal.
- This offense was good with Fields as a service passer. He needs work between the ears, syncing his feet with his throwing motion and how to work off script. That final fatal pick was him not being on the same page as Olave.
Expecting the receiver to keep crossing the DB's face and the WR starts the scramble drill because he doesn't know if you're going to find him and keep working from the pocket.


As for the strip score... At some point, the NCAA and NFL are both going to have to come together and decide what constitutes a catch. Because had that happened but the receiver stretched the ball over the pylon, it would have been ruled a TD. So if the refs and the rules are comfortable with that, then they should be completely fine with calling that what it should have been called - a Buckeye defensive TD. Sure, you can point to things we could have done as a team, but at some time the officiating needs to be taken to task because that was directly tied to a score. A game winning margin considering the Bucks last TD no less.



Didn't think the play calling on either side of the ball was bad. Proud of the defense coming out and not playing scared with all the man coverage. Just hoping the young secondary and backfield will be ready to roll come September.
I've got nothing else beyond that at the moment. My voice is scratching and I'm tired. But the beautiful thing about football is that there will always be another game after this one.
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Honestly as much as it sucks I'd put that last int on Olave. The ball was already out of he hand by the time he stopped. The defense had the luxury of looking at the qb. It was basically the same route they threw for a TD on 4th and 1 just a little deeper so it it took a little longer.
 
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scarletngray said:
The fumble, scoop and score reverse was a terrible call. Whoever was responsible for making the call should be fined, then fired. It had a direct effect on the outcome of the game. Even with that, we could have and should have won. I know... would of, could of, should of....
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It gets worse the head ref is defending that shit in an interview. Own you fucked it up and people would consider ya human double down after obviously being wrong and ya look like a blind moron.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
YES!

This isn't complicated. If his head was up, it doesn't matter what Lawrence does. His head was not up, because he was leading with the crown of his helmet.
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patently false. They throw people out for head up helmet or shoulder hits too. Trevor dropped himself into the strike zone of the inflexible disqualification rule.

It's an absurd, unnecessarily inflexible rule.
Come on guys. I know it's not "fair". It's not fair when someone chucks a deep ball on 3rd and long in desperation and the ball is thrown so short that the WR going back for a horrible pass gets the PI call. But it's still the rule.
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Oh great, so they called that one then, right? That should help Fields avoid forcing a pick shortly after
 
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MARVYMARV14 said:
the circumstance would also be that the QB put himself in that situation...
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That
Doesn't
Matter


When Will Allen blasted McGahee in the knee....did the knee care that he wasn't trying to break it in half? No. The injury doesn't care. The rules are trying to make people tackle in a safer way, because the injury doesn't care about intent. So neither can the rule.
 
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jwinslow said:
patently false. They throw people out for head up helmet or shoulder hits too. Trevor dropped himself into the strike zone of the inflexible disqualification rule.

It's an absurd, unnecessarily inflexible rule.

Oh great, so they called that one then, right? That should help Fields avoid forcing a pick shortly after
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I love how pass inference isn't pass interference if that ball is uncatchable. It's still defensive holding but 99% of the time they don't call it.
 
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jwinslow said:
patently false. They throw people out for head up helmet or shoulder hits too. Trevor dropped himself into the strike zone of the inflexible disqualification rule.
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That's not patently false. If Wade's facemask hits Lawrence in the same exact place, it shouldn't be an ejection. I say shouldn't bc after that fumble overturn, I can't definitively say what would have happened.
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Oh great, so they called that one then, right? That should help Fields avoid forcing a pick shortly after
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Wut?
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
That's not patently false. If Wade's facemask hits Lawrence in the same exact place, it shouldn't be an ejection. I say shouldn't bc after that fumble overturn, I can't definitively say what would have happened.
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we've seen players tossed for non launched shoulders or facemasks to the head. Head up, no spearing, clean football plays that were disqualifiers because of a brain dead rule.

P.s. let me know when player safety begins caring about the spines of defenders tackling RBs.
Wut?
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you just described the uncalled PI down the left sideline right before the Simmons INT.
 
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