I can think of maybe one instant where targeting was called on the offense..... it’s absolutely a rule that always puts the defender in a bad position
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mendensa
Legend
He held the damn ball over his head for 3 of the four steps he took. he doesn't need to tuck the darn thing to complete the process of the catch. If he wants to run all the way down the f'n field with the ball over his head he is entitled to. And I don't believe the rule states which direction the player has to go to make a football move. All I know is that he had possession of that pigskin for a lot of steps before it came out.
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JohnnyCockfight
Beer is God's proof that he loves us.
Rule 9-1-3 is the applicable targeting rule under which Wade was ejected. It states:
So, under the "letter of the law" which many people are saying, Wade was in violation of targetting Lawrence. What I would then argue to those douchenozzles, per the "letter of the law", at best Lawrence also targeted Wade, should have been ejected, and the penalties offset.
It is an overbroad rule, and overbroad rules should either not be enforced, or be enforced equally. We are talking about a 6'1" player who is crouching down for a tackle who comes helmet to helmet with a 6'6" QB. Shouldn't be physically possible unless...
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So if at the last second the offensive player dips their head it still should be all on the defender? Maybe they were going to hit their chest but that last second move by the ball carrier turned it into a helmet to helmet
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Well none of that is relevant. The rule doesn't have intent today. You hit with the top of your head into the head or neck area, you're ejected.
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Oh the ball definitely became loose...after he took 4 FUCKING STEPS. It was not a difficult call on the field, or in replay. It was a clear fumble and return. Yet those motherfuckers overturned it. This is not a call that could go either way, it is a fucking clear-cut call that was right the first time, and should have been confirmed in less than a minute. That was the play where I just said "Fuck it, what can we even do?" Glad our players kept playing despite that. I just felt like we were going to lose if such a blatant and obvious call went against us. There were many other calls I felt similarly about, but this one was the worst.
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It's not. Shoulder to upper area is a penalty too. He's supposed to Oklahoma tackle him for safety.
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billmac91
Head Coach
They can take “intent” into consideration when it’s “helmet to helmet” contact. But that is typically reserved for ‘bang bang’ plays in the secondary where a DB and WR come together and collide. If the “helmet to helmet” contact is deemed non intentional and the crown of the helmet isn’t lowered, by the letter of the law they can choose to let it go, although they still tend to error on the side of safety.
Shaun had (2) problems. One, is he hit a QB in the pocket, which is always risky with how protected they are. But secondarily he also lowered his head and exposed the crown of his helmet.
By the letter of the rule, I think it’s the correct call. It’s just a really shitty rule and extremely excessive.
In fairness to Shaun, and all DB’s coming on blitzes for that matter against 6’6” giants like Lawrence......what the hell else can you do?? Wade didn’t launch or intentionally create helmet to helmet contact. Lawrence dipped in the pocket lowering himself to Wade’s 6’1” height (actually even lower because Wade was bent over) and their heads collided. It’s unfortunate physics honestly. I just hate this “leading with your head” stuff....do a fun exercise in your room and try and grab something while standing on your feet. Shockingly, you will find you lead with your head towards the object.
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In the end probably the most frustrating game ever. One TD on those red zone FG settles probably wins the game.
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jebussmurf
All-American
Lawrence is 6'6. Doing that takes time and he might throw the ball way or check it down.
I was being facetious but if his head wasn't there, I think his shoulder hits Lawrence in the chest and not the head. Agree that shoulder to head is still targeting.
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dragurd
Head Coach
Eh I would have argued the targeting if he hit with his facemask but he dropped his head. Yes it sucks we lost one of our better defenders to it though.
Though if I was the announcers I would have eviscerated Dabo for bring Tee Higgins back after the half. If you are that concerned about a concussion you take his helmet away in the first half under no circumstances should he get it back in the second half. Concussions don't clear up in a half.
Though if I was the announcers I would have eviscerated Dabo for bring Tee Higgins back after the half. If you are that concerned about a concussion you take his helmet away in the first half under no circumstances should he get it back in the second half. Concussions don't clear up in a half.
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YES!
This isn't complicated. If his head was up, it doesn't matter what Lawrence does. His head was not up, because he was leading with the crown of his helmet.
Come on guys. I know it's not "fair". It's not fair when someone chucks a deep ball on 3rd and long in desperation and the ball is thrown so short that the WR going back for a horrible pass gets the PI call. But it's still the rule.
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It’s absolutely the rule but that doesn’t mean that the rule isn’t garbage. If we are going by the book that “roughing” the punter was definitely just running into. They hit him in the air though!!
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MARVYMARV14
Hall of Fame
I've seen refs use better judgement during games. It's over so who cares at this point but the rule should be changed to factor in circumstace...
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JohnnyCockfight
Beer is God's proof that he loves us.
To clarify, my biggest issue with the targeting call is this - we don't know, and nobody can know if Wade's helmet would have made contact with Lawrence at all had Lawrence not crouched way down and leaned forward (with his helmet) into the hit. I've watched it frame by frame and it is not clear. So how the hell does a replay official initiate the review (it wasn't called on the field) and uphold it so quickly?
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