buckeydoptimist;1270423; said:
jo4h,
KJ averaged about 7 pts and 5 rbs over his first 3 seasons. For a guy starting at C, and playing that many minutes, his pts and rbs were pretty pedestrian those years. Not bad, but not impressive or high calibre IMO! IMO, the rb avg is very average and the scoring is slightly below average for a starting C. He really was the 5th option on offense as most of his FGs were on the break or garbage inside - they didn't run many plays thru him until his SR year.
His forte' was blocking shots and an occasional dunk on the break or put-back inside, PERIOD. He only showed all-around capabilities as a SR where he averaged 12.5 pts and around 7.3 rbs. Those #s are more what you'd expect from a starting C playing that much.
I don't have his individual stats before his JR year ( only some totals ) but his last two years he shot 55% and 58% FGs ( his best year % wise ) so I think you have your 61.5% confused as his career % is 54% and his best ( .578 ) doesn't rank in OSU's all-time T10.
Now his b/s numbers were always SUPERLATIVE and thru the roof, but that is only ONE STAT! I liked KJ, but for a 4 year starting C he really didn't stand out that much except as a s/b, where he stood out PLENTY. His averages for everything else are well down the all-time tOSU lists! The 54% career FG, where he is tied with Jason Singleton at 8th all-time, is his only other mark of note. Good player and good 5-year kid, but I think many overstate his all-around proficiency remembering how great a s/b he was.
not to hijack paynes thread but
1-he wasnt a 5 year player. he was a prop 48. at that time non qualifers could still enroll. so he wasnt a redshirted player. that has to be taken into consideration.
2-was he johnny minor, jimmy hull, robin freeman, gary bradds or jim jackson, no. but he certainly was not doug etzler, rick yudt or don jantonio...
ken johnson was a two time team mvp. all b10 center, two time b10 offensive player of the week. started 3 years 99, 00, 01. 1,055 career points.
ken is 7th all time in fg % .540
9th rebounding 739 (no season in the top 10) [he actually only lead the team in rebounding twice, redd did the other two times]
444 blocked shots is #1, seasons he has 1,2 and 4. (oden is 3), he has his name all over shots blocked in a game. look at his annual numbers and lock everywhere else, its a joke...
4th all time in games played.
3rd all time in games started
his teams were (full non vacated games)
8-22
1-1 (27-9)
11-3 (24-7)
0-0 (20-11)
97-98 30 79 45 203 6.8
98-99 36 98 35 231 6.4
99-00 30 94 47 235 7.8
00-01 31 145 96 386 12.5
career 127 416 223 1055 8.3
(thats g, fgm, ftm, pts, avg)
i think you make valid points but a few things
1-basketball isnt baseball, its not all about the stats. ken johnson was a space eater. offense, defense, tranisiton. he allowed redd and penn to create on the perm and singleton/reese etc space to operate.
2-while i mostly agree with you not to the extent you are verbalizing. and certainly not to the extent that many seem to remember, his role is vastly understated.
