#1 Southern Cal 21, Oregon St. 27 (Final)

[mooktarr]

I'm broke again. :(

 

[buckeyesin07]

What you're suggesting would imply that Pete Carroll, or any other head coach that has a roster stacked like Southern Cal's, is a failure for not going 29-0 since the title game versus Texas. Expectations at that level are absurd.

No, I'm suggesting that a head coach with a roster stacked like SC shouldn't lose at least one game to a 25+ point underdog each season.

 

[Colvinnl]

If you read my post, you'll see that I conceded that Carroll is a phenomenal big-game coach, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by citing examples that support that point. Any coach can have his team not get up for a big game now and then. However, when your teams lose to incredibly less talented opponents year in and year out, you cannot be considered one of the best coaches in the country, IMO.

Who is better than Pete Carroll? By how much? He has an impressive W-L record with a lot of quality wins. I'd trade our wins and losses for his wins and losses. No coach is perfect, but there is no doubt he is one of the best in the country.

 

[Steve19]

This upset has reminded me of how much college football depends on the team's psychological readiness to play.

Ohio State walked into the game against USC flat and full of self-doubt without Beanie Wells lining up. The unsuspected rotation of quarterbacks confused the offensive line further. The silly penalties could be attributed, at least in part, to some of that confusion.

USC looked like they walked into the game against Oregon State flat and full of complacency.

Getting a team ready to play in college football means having an agreed and understood game plan and a set of expected alternatives if things do not go to plan. It also requires getting the team emotionally right.

The loss to USC has reminded our coaches how important it is to prepare the team psychologically. Now, the team that taught us has learned the same lesson.

 

[Bucklion]

Who is better than Pete Carroll? By how much? He has an impressive W-L record with a lot of quality wins. I'd trade our wins and losses for his wins and losses. No coach is perfect, but there is no doubt he is one of the best in the country.

I wouldn't. We've been pounding Michigan, won a NC, won BCS bowls, and made it to 3 title games. Unless you are just talking about this year.

 

[Bucklion]

This upset has reminded me of how much college football depends on the team's psychological readiness to play.

Ohio State walked into the game against USC flat and full of self-doubt without Beanie Wells lining up. The unsuspected rotation of quarterbacks confused the offensive line further. The silly penalties could be attributed, at least in part, to some of that confusion.

USC looked like they walked into the game against Oregon State flat and full of complacency.

Getting a team ready to play in college football means having an agreed and understood game plan and a set of expected alternatives if things do not go to plan. It also requires getting the team emotionally right.

The loss to USC has reminded our coaches how important it is to prepare the team psychologically. Now, the team that taught us has learned the same lesson.

Agreed...I bet there will be less upsets going forward now, because coaches can point to this result all season. Minnesota was NOT rooting for USC last night.

 

[bkochmc]

If you read my post, you'll see that I conceded that Carroll is a phenomenal big-game coach, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by citing examples that support that point. Any coach can have his team not get up for a big game now and then. However, when your teams lose to incredibly less talented opponents year in and year out, you cannot be considered one of the best coaches in the country, IMO.

I added those because though you did mention Petey is a phenomenal big-game coach you only showed his loses.. that is a pretty impressive OOC list for 3 years. Those games, in conjunction with the loses you mentioned, supports the main point of my message which you did not mention above... Conference games are more likely to generate upsets than OOC games. That is the nature of the college football beast and happens to all the great coaches.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Well, unlike alot of the posters here, I will still be rooting for the bucks this week.

And unlike a lot of USC fans I've seen on other sites....you'll probably still be rooting for SC next week.

Which is worse....a fanbase full of retards (ours) or a fanbase full of spoiled bandwagon jumpers (yours)?

 

[Dryden]

I wouldn't. We've been pounding Michigan, won a NC, won BCS bowls, and made it to 3 title games. Unless you are just talking about this year.

Amen.

How quick people are to throw a Jim Tressel or a Pete Carroll under the bus after one loss.

The BCS system has been around for 10 years, and not a single coach has repeated under the format ('98 Fulmer, '99 Bowden, '00 Stoops, '01 Coker, '02 Tressel, '03 Saban, '04 Carroll, '05 Brown, '06 Meyer, '07 Miles).

Looking at that list of ten coaches, knowing what they've done, or what they might do, it is not a stretch to think nine of them (all but Larry Coker) are HoF'ers. Every single one of these guys has plenty of embarrassing losses/moments on their resumes! No head coach is immune. What is also eye-opening is that two coaches that I would consider the absolute best in the business at the college level (Butch Davis and Mark Richt) don't even make the list. Take Nick Saban, who has proven he can turn a program into a winner in two years. Sparty. LSU. Alabama. These schools were all at various levels of just plain bad to mediocre when he inherited them, and look what he's done. Dude lost a home game to UL-Monroe!

Winning every game, and winning national titles, isn't easy.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

I think we need an official investigation of both Woodrow Wilson and Sparky...

I think we have evidence of Mafia ties and college payoffs... as well as insider betting...

How ANYONE predicted this one is blatant evidence of mob involvement

 

[stowfan]

I couldn't bring myself to get in bed last night until the game ended. As flat as USC was in the first half, it was still a great effort by OSU. Any vbets on our meeting up with SC in the Rose bowl?

 

[Taosman]

Looking at Oregon State's schedule it appears favorable to a Pac Ten championship. But, wait. They have to play at Utah next week. Watch them lose that one. :tongue2:

Thu, Aug 28 Stanford * - at Stanford, Calif. 6 p.m. 28 - 36 (L)

Beaver Sports Network Sat, Sep 06 Penn State 19 at State College, Pa. 12:30 p.m. PDT 14 - 45 (L)

Beaver Sports Network Sat, Sep 13 Hawai'i - Corvallis, Ore. 1 p.m. 45 - 7 (W)

Beaver Sports Network Thu, Sep 25 USC * 1 Corvallis, Ore. 6 p.m. 27 - 21 (W)

Beaver Sports Network Thu, Oct 02 Utah - at Salt Lake City, Utah 6
Beaver Sports Network Sat, Oct 11 Washington State * - Corvallis, Ore. TBA

Sat, Oct 18 Washington * - at Seattle 4 p.m.
Versus
Beaver Sports Network Sat, Nov 01 Arizona State (Homecoming) * - Corvallis, Ore. 7:15 p.m.

Beaver Sports Network Sat, Nov 08 UCLA * - at Los Angeles TBA

Sat, Nov 15 California (Dad's Weekend) * - Corvallis, Ore. TBA

Sat, Nov 22 Arizona * - at Tucson, Ariz. 4 p.m.

Sat, Nov 29 Oregon * - Corvallis, Ore. 4 p.m.

 

[JCOSU86]

Amen.

How quick people are to throw a Jim Tressel or a Pete Carroll under the bus after one loss.

The BCS system has been around for 10 years, and not a single coach has repeated under the format ('98 Fulmer, '99 Bowden, '00 Stoops, '01 Coker, '02 Tressel, '03 Saban, '04 Carroll, '05 Brown, '06 Meyer, '07 Miles).

Looking at that list of ten coaches, knowing what they've done, or what they might do, it is not a stretch to think nine of them (all but Larry Coker) are HoF'ers. Every single one of these guys has plenty of embarrassing losses/moments on their resumes! No head coach is immune. What is also eye-opening is that two coaches that I would consider the absolute best in the business at the college level (Butch Davis and Mark Richt) don't even make the list. Take Nick Saban, who has proven he can turn a program into a winner in two years. Sparty. LSU. Alabama. These schools were all at various levels of just plain bad to mediocre when he inherited them, and look what he's done. Dude lost a home game to UL-Monroe!

Winning every game, and winning national titles, isn't easy.

Excellent points. Except for the one about Davis and Richt

 

[RugbyBuck]

I was an undergrad at Oregon State before being a grad student at Ohio State and I was torn over this game. Wanted the Beavs to win, but really didn't think it possible and didn't want tOSU to look bad in comparison against USC. Then the game started. When I was in Corvallis the team was one of the two or three worst in college football. They got no support and Reser was never full and loud. I loved the orange everywhere in the stands and the fight that the Beavers brought to Saint Peter's annointed champions. Great job, Beavers! Now, as Steve mentioned earlier, we need to attack the Big 10 with the same kind of intensity. Maybe, thanks to my first OSU, we can get a second shot at SC in the Rose.

 

[OSUINVA]

It will be interesting to see just how far USC falls in the polls. Going undefeated is a difficult task, but if you must go down, it is better to that early than at the end. Anyways, one game that is going to be interesting will be the Ohio State vs Penn st, (if the lions stay undefeated) Penn St gave Oregan St the beat down.

The whole "lets see what happens next" factor in college football is outstanding and cannot be out done. A playoff system in college football could not produce this amount of contraversy nor excitment.