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#1 seed?

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BuckTwenty;1669594; said:
Before I start, all I'm saying is don't get your hopes up too high for a #1 seed. ... OSU's RPI isn't even in the top 25 ...
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Once again, RPI is no longer so highly considered by the Committee, since mid-majors found out that they can game the system and get a high ranking simply by losing to highly-ranked teams.

Ken Pomeroy has the Buckeyes as the 6th-best team in the nation, and his rankings carry more weight these days; they're the best available predictor of what team will win a given matchup. Scarily accurate.

If the Bucks win the B11 tourney, I think the chances are as high as 50-50 for a one-seed. But in all honesty, a 2- or 3-seed wouldn't be much worse relative to our getting to the final 4 -- depending on who our bracket has as the "1."
 
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This morning Bilas said that if tOSU wins the Big Ten tournament they will be a #1 seed.

I think that's possible, but only if K-State, Duke, and Villanova all lose in their conference tournaments. If any of them also win their tourney, I think they'd get it ahead of tOSU.
 
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BB73;1669638; said:
This morning Bilas said that if tOSU wins the Big Ten tournament they will be a #1 seed.

I think that's possible, but only if K-State, Duke, and Villanova all lose in their conference tournaments. If any of them also win their tourney, I think they'd get it ahead of tOSU.
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Things change with another day of hoops.

Right now, I'd give the last #1 seed to the first team on this list that wins its conference tournament:

Purdue
Duke
West Va
tOSU
Kansas St

Purdue has't lost without Hummel yet, and if they win the B10 Tourney, they'll have earned a #1 seed. I think the seedings should be more on what a team's earned, not based on what is expected of them because of an injury.

If none of those 5 wins a conference tournament, it'll be a tough call (depends on who each team loses to).
 
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BB73;1669743; said:
Purdue has't lost without Hummel yet, and if they win the B10 Tourney, they'll have earned a #1 seed. I think the seedings should be more on what a team's earned, not based on what is expected of them because of an injury.
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I think they promptly lost to Michigan State without him.

And injuries have to be factored in. The UC team with Kenyon Martin was one of the four best teams in the country that year, but they weren't even a top 20 team without him.
 
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JohnnyCockfight;1669745; said:
I think they promptly lost to Michigan State without him.

And injuries have to be factored in. The UC team with Kenyon Martin was one of the four best teams in the country that year, but they weren't even a top 20 team without him.
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Good catch, how'd that slip my mind, they only scored 44 points in that game. But it's not a bad loss, even though it was at home.
 
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BB73;1669749; said:
Good catch, how'd that slip my mind, they only scored 44 points in that game. But it's not a bad loss, even though it was at home.
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Maybe because I posted the wrong score in that game's thread? :biggrin:
 
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Ahiacitian;1669012; said:
To be honest, I would love for Duke to get the last #1 seed and for Ohio State to get the highest #2 seed and be in Duke's bracket. I think that would take pressure of the Bucks to perform at a high level as a #1 seed, while still getting in the bracket with the worst of the #1's, conceivably making it a more manageable run to the Final Four. That is if Duke could actually hold up their end of the deal and finally make it back to the Elite 8 which would be the matchup with the Bucks. :biggrin:
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Exactly. :sneaky:
 
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Jake;1672185; said:
Georgetown knocks off Syracuse in the BE tourney quarterfinals. That certainly won't hurt our chances.
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I kinda doubt Ohio State is going to jump Syracuse.

I think the only possible team Ohio State jumps at this point is Duke and ONLY if Duke falls on their ass.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1672189; said:
I kinda doubt Ohio State is going to jump Syracuse.

I think the only possible team Ohio State jumps at this point is Duke and ONLY if Duke falls on their ass.
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I don't think we're going to jump anyone. I said earlier that I think we're a 2 seed. I just posted it because an expected #1 seed got upset, so I thought it was relevant to this thread.
 
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MaxBuck;1669622; said:
Once again, RPI is no longer so highly considered by the Committee, since mid-majors found out that they can game the system and get a high ranking simply by losing to highly-ranked teams.

Ken Pomeroy has the Buckeyes as the 6th-best team in the nation, and his rankings carry more weight these days; they're the best available predictor of what team will win a given matchup. Scarily accurate.
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It's not as highly considered, but it is considered. Doesn't change any of the rest of my argument, either. Doesn't change our strength of schedule either, which at this point is #85 (not good).

And I'd agree with Ken as of right now. OSU is the 6th best team overall, which would make them a solid 2nd seed in the tourny. Duke and West Virginia control their own destiny for a #1 seed if they win their respective conference tournys to join Kansas and Kentucky, and Syracuse still looks like they're likely a #1 (depending on their center's injury). And honestly, a #2 looks awfully nice right now, especially considering the 4th #1 is likely to be in the west bracket.

Be happy fellas! We're sitting pretty in the Big Dance and ought to be going deep on a lot of Final Four brackets.
 
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