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1 loss teams. Who you got?

BB73;1312845; said:
I hear this argument all the time, but I don't buy it. Where were Alabama, Penn State, Texas, and Texas Tech ranked in the preseason?

24 - Bama (these are AP rankings)
22 - Penn St
12 - Texas Tech
11 - Texas

I fail to see how having no polls for the first few weeks of the season would make for more accurate rankings at this point in the season.

And if there were no 'official' polls, there would be numerous unofficial ones to fill the void, since fans would want to have some indication of where their teams stand.

how can you fail to see the benefit? very often teams will move up and down the rankings together based on where they started in the first poll of the year. say 3 teams start off 1,2 and 3. after 8 weeks if they are still undefeated there is a good chance they will still be in the same order no matter what happened on the field.
 
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Lets be srious...the only way to tell between Texas, UF, Oklahoma, and USC is to have a playoff.

Honestly, even when Texas beat Oklahoma, I felt if both teams truly layed their best, Oklahoma was the better team. Oklahoma had some very bad breaks, and lost tons of momentum when they should have put the game away (Kick-returns, dropped INT's, terrible penalties,etc.)

We NEED a playoff...
 
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Playoff talk is complete nonsense. It will never happen. It might, but not in my life time.

Tressel has a a lot of positives and negatives about the playoff system. There is a reason he does not agree with it.
 
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Rookie;1313065; said:
Playoff talk is complete nonsense. It will never happen. It might, but not in my life time.

Tressel has a a lot of positives and negatives about the playoff system. There is a reason he does not agree with it.

Umm, how can a tournament that would decide a true national champion be construed as negative? Honestly, the notion that the regular season would lose value is dumb because there would only be so many slots available. I'd imagine either an 8, 12, or 16 team play off preferably a 12 that would include the 6 bcs conference winners and 6 at large bids, with the top 4 bcs conference champions given a bye.

I guess consider me ignorant, but I don't understand how a tournament of that size could be anything but positive as it would solve the meaningless debate over who deserves what.
 
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Rookie;1313065; said:
Playoff talk is complete nonsense. It will never happen.
Wow. Never. That's sad.
Rookie;1313065; said:
It might, but not in my life time.
Wow. Ever. So not never?
Rookie;1313065; said:
Tressel has a a lot of positives. . . about the playoff system.
Ah. . . so maybe we should do it?
Rookie;1313065; said:
Tressel has a a lot of. . . negatives about the playoff system. There is a reason he does not agree with it.
Or maybe not.

Hmm. I'm confused.

:biggrin:
 
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Rookie;1313065; said:
Playoff talk is complete nonsense. It will never happen. It might, but not in my life time.

Tressel has a a lot of positives and negatives about the playoff system. There is a reason he does not agree with it.

Plenty of coaches think it will happen in the near future...it's an opinion overall though.

How can anyone with complete certainty say who should make the championship game? Who has PSU beat this year? There is no fairer way to determne a champion....imagine OSU and Michigan having a rematch in 2006 to name the champion. Should OSU have gotten a chance in 98? It's a joke system.
 
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Oricus;1313092; said:
Umm, how can a tournament that would decide a true national champion be construed as negative? Honestly, the notion that the regular season would lose value is dumb because there would only be so many slots available. I'd imagine either an 8, 12, or 16 team play off preferably a 12 that would include the 6 bcs conference winners and 6 at large bids, with the top 4 bcs conference champions given a bye.

I guess consider me ignorant, but I don't understand how a tournament of that size could be anything but positive as it would solve the meaningless debate over who deserves what.

so i am guessing that you, in today's economy can afford to travel to three playoff games to see your team play. Hell, most could hardly afford to go to one bowl game.

And if you want to use home stadiums for the first 2 rounds and not bowl sites, you can count out the SEC. They would never support a format that might send them up north in winter.
 
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billmac91;1313098; said:
Plenty of coaches think it will happen in the near future...it's an opinion overall though.

How can anyone with complete certainty say who should make the championship game? Who has PSU beat this year? There is no fairer way to determne a champion....imagine OSU and Michigan having a rematch in 2006 to name the champion. Should OSU have gotten a chance in 98? It's a joke system.

Right now they have a two team playoff system. Doubling that would be good.
 
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TGfan06;1313104; said:
so i am guessing that you, in today's economy can afford to travel to three playoff games to see your team play. Hell, most could hardly afford to go to one bowl game.

And if you want to use home stadiums for the first 2 rounds and not bowl sites, you can count out the SEC. They would never support a format that might send them up north in winter.

. . . I highly doubt that SEC schools would be opposed to the idea that they may have to come up north to play a game. I also do not think the Model for a Playoff would consist of having all the playoff games at neutral sites requiring constant travel, that would be absurd.

I would believe that college football would have a similar playoff to the NFL, which is not a bad idea considering how successful that League is.

Regardless, the best one loss team is Florida.
 
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Oricus;1313202; said:
. . . I highly doubt that SEC schools would be opposed to the idea that they may have to come up north to play a game.
most sec teams avoid leaving the second region like we all have the plague. I have a post somewhere detailing this, as well as the bad results when they leave.

And those avoided games are in 70 degree September weather, not 25-40 degree December weather.
 
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most sec teams avoid leaving the second region like we all have the plague. I have a post somewhere detailing this, as well as the bad results when they leave.

And those avoided games are in 70 degree September weather, not 25-40 degree December weather.
The SEC is bullshit like that. Have LSU come up to Ohio to play the Buckeyes last January. Then see what would happen.
 
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jwinslow;1313209; said:
most sec teams avoid leaving the second region like we all have the plague. I have a post somewhere detailing this, as well as the bad results when they leave.

And those avoided games are in 70 degree September weather, not 25-40 degree December weather.

So, we have to assume since the SEC has not generally performed well in an environment that they do not play in often (which can be said for probably any other region of the country when taken out of their element) that they will not travel up north for a playoff game.

Honestly, I find that really petty if the SEC felt that way and would prevent a Playoff for that reason alone. Which is why I do not think that is a plausible reason. Ideally, it's the only fair way to have a Playoff, and I highly doubt that the SEC (which would have the same advantage of playing at Home) would deny a possible playoff on that reason alone.
 
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