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'08 OH WR/DB D.J. Woods (Cincinnati signee)

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I think Ray Small is the only recruit I can think of that was even close to borderline academically.

Football players at Ohio State are closer to the average student than you would think.

I don't think Woods even has bad grades, they just want to see a level of commitment from him that he may not have displayed in the past.
 
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Looks like I may have to change my chart in the "2008 Ohio State Recruiting" thread to add D.J. I have always liked what he brought to the table but just never believed he was getting an OSU offer, for some unknown reason to me. Now that we know what it was, I would expect him to be in this class. Only thing is, who's spot does he take? Lamaar Thomas's? McCarthy's? Jeff Fuller's?
 
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I dont believe those numbers are accurate.. if a kid has scores that high and cant get in then he likely has some sort of issue not being listed because those numbers would deffinately get you into most public universities in the country.
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Yeah that's wrong. We have kids who dont get into Ohio State wtih 4.2's and 26 on their ACT's, and I go to one of the top 20 academic catholic schools in the nation. The football players have a much lower standard. From talking to college coaches it can be substantial.
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BGriffBuckeye;883293; said:
Looks like I may have to change my chart in the "2008 Ohio State Recruiting" thread to add D.J. I have always liked what he brought to the table but just never believed he was getting an OSU offer, for some unknown reason to me. Now that we know what it was, I would expect him to be in this class. Only thing is, who's spot does he take? Lamaar Thomas's? McCarthy's? Jeff Fuller's?
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I don't think he takes anyone's spot, especially with this class likely to end up in the 18-20 range... There's always been 1 spot earmarked for a CB in this class, and that's where DJ would fit in...
 
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First, I apologize that I'm adding to the tangentialness of this discussion that will, no doubt, be soon split off. However....................

The caliber of student that OSU accepts-- and that which OSU athletic teams are permitted to bring in-- have both risen since Cooper was here. That said, the average HS GPA and the average test scores of a football recruit is not at the same level as the general student population. Sure, there are football recruits for OSU (many more so than during the Cooper regime) with the academic credentials to get accepted at OSU even if they didn't play football, but there are many that would never get into OSU (the main branch, anyway) if they weren't athletes. There's nothing unique about that, as virtually every Division I school bends their standards to get athletes in (or depending on how you look at it, place greater emphasis on the extracurricular excellence of these students), but there are most certainly a good number of athletes at OSU who would never have a chance to get into OSU had they not been so good at sports.

Some stats:
--For the 2006 freshman class, there were over 19,000 applications for 6162 spots.
--The average ACT score was 26.2 and the average SAT was 1200.
--Almost 50% were in the top 10% of their graduating class, and 80% were in the top 25%.

It is getting more and more difficult for students to get into OSU. Although probably uncommon, it is entirely conceivable that a kid with a 4.2 HS GPA and 26 ACT wouldn't get accepted to OSU (main campus) if he or she had no extracurriculars and bombed his/her essay. Remember, the 26 ACT is average now at OSU (slightly below average, actually), so a student needs to do something else to stand out. Heck, the only reason OSU's ACT/SAT/% at top of graduating class numbers aren't higher is because they have the largest enrollment in the country.
 
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I guess I will have to respectfully disagree to a certain extent...my experience with the OSU admissions department as of late might be different than that of the football program but it seems from having spoken with other coaches that almost all coaches within the university have had to alter their recruiting priorities to include kids that can get past the admissions boards with no problems. Now whether or not those student-athletes are held to a different standard is for the admissions board to know and us to debate. Again, my experience has been such that you better be going to the board with a kid who had a pretty good shot of getting in regardless of athletics. Obviously JT is given some wiggle room (as I alluded to before) because of what the football program means to the university. But the fact that times have changed since the Bruce/Cooper era is indisputable. Just ask kids like DaJuan Morgan, Dennis Kennedy and Josh Chichester.
 
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I think if a recruit has solid, but not spectacular grades, they are not in trouble from admissions. It is the kids who are barely eligible by NCAA standards that are in trouble-like a 2.5 GPA 17/18 ACT. I think a significant chunk, if not all, of the football players tOSU recruits, would not get into tOSU as regular students-just like at Stanford or ND
 
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I agree that student-athletes still need to get past the admissions board and that the criteria are far more stringent than in years past. However, the weight the admissions board gives to athletic ability is still pretty high, and that results in admitting student-athletes who otherwise would never be admitted to OSU if athletic ability was not such a regarded criterion (just looking at the test scores and GPAs of some of these kids is testament to that). The same argument (that the weight given to this exceptional ability would compensate for lesser academic qualifications) could be made for students with exceptional skills in music or art, so it is not necessarily a case of athletes getting free passes at the expense of other students. I guess my main point is that the weight given to athletic ability is no different than what other schools do when admitting students, but that by doing so they are bringing in some kids who wouldn't otherwise have the academic credentials to get into the school. What OSU is doing in terms of being more strict with their admission standards for athletes is laudable, but the truth is that athletic ability can still make up for academic deficiencies (as compared to the general student population)-- just not to the extent that used to be the case.
 
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of note i was told by a friend in admissions the average "acceptance" letter to kids was something like 28.5 granted that number will drop as some kids had osu as a safety school and will go to ivy leagues, nws, stanford etc.

we could beat this horse here, but maybe it is best to do it somewhere else...

talk on dj and his offer...
 
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Wow, with the offer, I'd be surprised if he is not a Buckeye. Anybody disagree? And, after reports saying they were waiting for a report card, and considering it is summer right now, and Kevin Koger just made his scUM verbal public... is this a direct result of that?

EDIT: Kevin Noon of Buckeye Grove/Rivals is reporting the offer as well.
 
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If true, good for DJ!! I don't think the positions he plays are as great a need as other positions, but he is a great talent and apparently wowed coaches at every place he camped. It will be interesting to see where he ends up, on Offense or Defense. That is assuming he ends up in S&G.

Any thoughts?

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