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'06 OH OL/DT Aaron Brown (Virginia Tech Signee)

If Aaron goes to VaTech I will be very disappointed. But my disappointement will be based soley on what I have read on this and other boards. If we wanted him and couldn't get him that is a shame, but we will get someone else.

If we - for whatever reason - "cooled" that is fine. I would much rather lose him now than lose him the way we lost Derek Morris, Maurice Clarett, Louis Irazarry, Brandon Maupin, etc, etc.

(Please Note: I am NOT trying to categorize this kid as an undesirable - I have no knowledge that would justify my doing that. I am just poining out that the objective is to recruit kids who produce on the field and contribute to the program - not just to get them to sign LOIs.)
 
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While I get sickened by hearing a recruit say he didn't get enough love from a program, I don't think we should be comparing him to Clarett or Irizarry.
To me 'not enough love from
the program' raises a red flag..not to say he will turn out like Clarett..just that it won't ruin the program if we lose this young man. It bothers me when HS athletes expect to be fawned over like they're God's gift to the world
 
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This reminds me of the year we lost Anotonio Hall and Anthony Munoz.

There are so many good lineman in Ohio that are just dying on an offer from the bucks.

Anyways I am going to hold out hope till the 6th and if he goes to Va Tech good luck to him, and we will be just fine.
 
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To me 'not enough love from
the program' raises a red flag.. It bothers me when HS athletes expect to be fawned over like they're God's gift to the world

What a misapplication. Tell me, which of us if we were being recruited out of college by several Fortune 500 companies for employment, would not choose, all other considerations being relativley equal, the company that made you feel the most needed or important or where your contributions would be most appreciated?

Those intangible personal considerations shape where we live, who we marry, where we work, and many of the most important decisions of our lives. Is a college choice any less of a significant event not to have those considerations? Should we consider ourselves prima donnas, selfish, or be be more judgemental about ourselves because of personal considerations? I think not.

Fellow Buckeyes

FREE YOUR MIND
 
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What a misapplication. Tell me, which of us if we were being recruited out of college by several Fortune 500 companies for employment, would not choose, all other considerations being relativley equal, the company that made you feel the most needed or important or where your contributions would be most appreciated?

i understand that, and agree to an extent. however, if that is your decisionmaking criteria, then your process needs rethinked. its nice to be fawned over. but what one has to realize is that the moment your signature is on the line, all the glitz and glamor is gone. that's where you make your decision. its about what place is the best for you once the ink dries on the paper and you are the same as everyone else. not which place made the biggest stink over you when you stopped in for the weekend.

i would like to point out that this post, while in the brown thread is about recruits in general just as much as it is about him.
 
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if in fact Aaron has decided to go elsewhere, then so be it. sure it would have been nice to have him, but now we can start handing out offers to guys who WANT to be Buckeyes. i don't think anyone will complain if we offer the likes of Nagy, Browning, Palmer, Thomas, or even Jake Miller at this point. Aaron is a talent no doubt. but if he didn't want to be here for whatever reason, then so be it. we'll move on. we've got the luxury of taking a few guys that aren't polished right now because of our superb o-line depth. best of luck wherever you go Aaron.
 
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Madville knows my feelings on this subject, so let me just say this. While I am glad that Aaron is picking the school that he feels best for him, I am not overly concerned about missing out on him. With Aaron, there is probably the largest gap between actual talent right now and potential talent down the road. The sky is the limit for Aaron, but he is certainly not one of the top OL talents in the state right now. However, he certainly has the potential to become the one player four years from now that we look back at and say turned into the top OL talent in the '06 class. But that is a long way away. At this point, I would rather have a Boone or Boren or Smith...someone who still has lots of room to grow but is much more developed as lineman at this point.

There is no question that the staff cooled on Aaron a little bit. When the whole story comes out, I think you will all see that that was the case. Would they have still liked to have him? Of course. But were they willing to go through another AMW-type situation, waiting on a one player when other talents were out there just waiting on an OSU offer? No way.
 
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What a misapplication. Tell me, which of us if we were being recruited out of college by several Fortune 500 companies for employment, would not choose, all other considerations being relativley equal, the company that made you feel the most needed or important or where your contributions would be most appreciated?

Should we consider ourselves prima donnas, selfish, or be be more judgemental about ourselves because of personal considerations? I think not.

Fellow Buckeyes

FREE YOUR MIND

There is a difference between making an important decision and clouding the process with unnecessary crap. This was a train wreck because certain parties tried to make it the Camp David Summit.

When it comes down to it, what school and football program do you like the best? Then freeken go there.
 
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What a misapplication. Tell me, which of us if we were being recruited out of college by several Fortune 500 companies for employment, would not choose, all other considerations being relativley equal, the company that made you feel the most needed or important or where your contributions would be most appreciated?

Those intangible personal considerations shape where we live, who we marry, where we work, and many of the most important decisions of our lives. Is a college choice any less of a significant event not to have those considerations? Should we consider ourselves prima donnas, selfish, or be be more judgemental about ourselves because of personal considerations? I think not.

Fellow Buckeyes

FREE YOUR MIND
I guess I'm different..When I looked for a job I didn't look for who was GIVING me the Most now. I had enough confidence in my education and abilities that I just wanted the best opportunity..and I would EARN more than they were giving. An athlete at any major university has an opportunity to be set for life even if he isn't NFL material..if he takes advantage of his opportunity. He shouldn't need more than that. OSU doesn't need to offer more..for the recruit there is always the Colorado's of the world if they need more"love"..
 
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I'm not sure the tOSU staff is too upset about losing this one...may have offered too early.

BINGO!....

Aaron, IMO, is not the player you all think he is. Is he a good kid? from all accounts, yes. Is a physical freak of nature? yes...But I saw a 5-11 195lb DT from Cincinnati McNicholas (Div III school to Princeton's D1) put AB on his backside on three separate occassions with bull rushes....I saw the scout video of Brown against Colerain last year and I was utterly amazed. Every clip of Brown from that game shows him lining up accross from Terrill Byrd and the tape rolls until the players are engaged and then it cuts to the next play...never, not once, do you see the continuation of the play where Terrill destroys Brown, runs around Brown or anything of that nature. Brown gave up 6 or the 8 sacks Colerain had in that game.

Now, I will be accused of being baised towards Colerain's players, etc...and while that may be true in my want for more Colerain players to become Buckeyes, it is NOT true when judging talent and heart in players from other schools...Steve Reherring was a beat at Lakota West and I loved the kid...I REALLY liked Amos from Middletown...I can't believe the Bucks got a two sport star like Chichester...But for the last three years I have not been able to understand the love affair over AB...he's a good student and a good kid, but reminds me too much of Colerain's Jefferson Kelly...just isn't mean enough or dedicated enough to play ball at a school like THE Ohio State University...in a word, he's soft.
 
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Nice post H&G. Let's just hope you keep that colerain pipeline going next year. Thanks for all you incite into cincy football.

BINGO!....

Aaron, IMO, is not the player you all think he is. Is he a good kid? from all accounts, yes. Is a physical freak of nature? yes...But I saw a 5-11 195lb DT from Cincinnati McNicholas (Div III school to Princeton's D1) put AB on his backside on three separate occassions with bull rushes....I saw the scout video of Brown against Colerain last year and I was utterly amazed. Every clip of Brown from that game shows him lining up accross from Terrill Byrd and the tape rolls until the players are engaged and then it cuts to the next play...never, not once, do you see the continuation of the play where Terrill destroys Brown, runs around Brown or anything of that nature. Brown gave up 6 or the 8 sacks Colerain had in that game.

Now, I will be accused of being baised towards Colerain's players, etc...and while that may be true in my want for more Colerain players to become Buckeyes, it is NOT true when judging talent and heart in players from other schools...Steve Reherring was a beat at Lakota West and I loved the kid...I REALLY liked Amos from Middletown...I can't believe the Bucks got a two sport star like Chichester...But for the last three years I have not been able to understand the love affair over AB...he's a good student and a good kid, but reminds me too much of Colerain's Jefferson Kelly...just isn't mean enough or dedicated enough to play ball at a school like THE Ohio State University...in a word, he's soft.
 
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